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Post by lordroel on Jul 8, 2019 19:10:44 GMT
There's the stories set in the "Protect and Survive" timeline in AH.com. It's well developed and covers several areas of the world. There is also a wiki related to it if I am right. |
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Post by archangel on Jul 8, 2019 19:19:29 GMT
There's the stories set in the "Protect and Survive" timeline in AH.com. It's well developed and covers several areas of the world. There is also a wiki related to it if I am right. Yes, there is.  It's the place to start to explore the stories (they are many, and I don't think anyone remembers all the stories by name). |
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Post by dayton3 on Oct 8, 2019 0:28:25 GMT
I thought it was mentioned but I don't guess it was. But Petrov DID report that the system had detected Minuteman ICBMs launched by the U.S. After the second launch detection he notified his superiors. Of course he also notified them he was overriding the alarm (which he then did for the 3rd, 4th, and 5th launch detections as well) because in his opinion the alarms were false.
That said he did notify his superiors and someone up the chain of command made a decision not to take it any further.
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Post by EwellHolmes on Oct 8, 2019 9:45:13 GMT
Putting aside the question of the likelihood of such a strategic exchange, the big winners would be Latin America, South Africa, Australia and New Zealand. The Soviets have no reason to target the first, and the last three are at the extreme end of their range while the Soviets also have much better targets to focus on. I'd imagine the U.S. Government would likely reconstitute in Mexico City, and from there gradually re-assert control over CONUS while reorganizing surviving elements of the U.S. Armed Forces.
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Post by dayton3 on Oct 9, 2019 0:03:26 GMT
Putting aside the question of the likelihood of such a strategic exchange, the big winners would be Latin America, South Africa, Australia and New Zealand. The Soviets have no reason to target the first, and the last three are at the extreme end of their range while the Soviets also have much better targets to focus on. I'd imagine the U.S. Government would likely reconstitute in Mexico City, and from there gradually re-assert control over CONUS while reorganizing surviving elements of the U.S. Armed Forces. Aren't you just assuming Washington D.C. would be targeted in a nuclear exchange? Some have suggested it would not be so that American leaders would be still around to call a halt to U.S. counterattacks and perhaps even surrender to the Soviets. |
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Post by EwellHolmes on Oct 11, 2019 0:54:36 GMT
Putting aside the question of the likelihood of such a strategic exchange, the big winners would be Latin America, South Africa, Australia and New Zealand. The Soviets have no reason to target the first, and the last three are at the extreme end of their range while the Soviets also have much better targets to focus on. I'd imagine the U.S. Government would likely reconstitute in Mexico City, and from there gradually re-assert control over CONUS while reorganizing surviving elements of the U.S. Armed Forces. Aren't you just assuming Washington D.C. would be targeted in a nuclear exchange? Some have suggested it would not be so that American leaders would be still around to call a halt to U.S. counterattacks and perhaps even surrender to the Soviets. U.S. war plans involved destroying Moscow, I can't see them not doing the same to disable command and control. |
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Post by stevep on Oct 11, 2019 12:14:55 GMT
Aren't you just assuming Washington D.C. would be targeted in a nuclear exchange? Some have suggested it would not be so that American leaders would be still around to call a halt to U.S. counterattacks and perhaps even surrender to the Soviets. U.S. war plans involved destroying Moscow, I can't see them not doing the same to disable command and control.
Plus even if the US didn't someone else probably would. Britain had the ability to hit Moscow as a crucial condition of its independent deterrent and possibly France would as well so if masses of missiles are being aimed at the western powers, including Paris and London I can't see Moscow escaping.
On the main point however I can't see Moscow not wanting to take out everybody who they would consider a potential threat - which to them means everybody not under their control. So they will want to hit Washington and almost certainly Beijing as well.
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Post by dayton3 on Oct 30, 2019 22:19:50 GMT
U.S. war plans involved destroying Moscow, I can't see them not doing the same to disable command and control.
Plus even if the US didn't someone else probably would. Britain had the ability to hit Moscow as a crucial condition of its independent deterrent and possibly France would as well so if masses of missiles are being aimed at the western powers, including Paris and London I can't see Moscow escaping.
On the main point however I can't see Moscow not wanting to take out everybody who they would consider a potential threat - which to them means everybody not under their control. So they will want to hit Washington and almost certainly Beijing as well.
If the president wasn't in Washington D.C. would it be to any advantage military command and control wise for the Soviets to take out the city? |
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Post by stevep on Oct 31, 2019 17:01:04 GMT
Plus even if the US didn't someone else probably would. Britain had the ability to hit Moscow as a crucial condition of its independent deterrent and possibly France would as well so if masses of missiles are being aimed at the western powers, including Paris and London I can't see Moscow escaping.
On the main point however I can't see Moscow not wanting to take out everybody who they would consider a potential threat - which to them means everybody not under their control. So they will want to hit Washington and almost certainly Beijing as well.
If the president wasn't in Washington D.C. would it be to any advantage military command and control wise for the Soviets to take out the city?
Although there are no doubt backups I think the bulk of the central government institulations and a lot of staff and equipment are in DC so even if the President and Congress weren't in session, if there was a full scale exchange its almost certain to be targetted. Also there is the HQ of the CIA and probably a lot of other intelligence sources in the region as well.
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It's the place to start to explore the stories (they are many, and I don't think anyone remembers all the stories by name).