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Post by lordroel on Apr 1, 2019 15:32:47 GMT
Sorry forgot to say it was translated from Icelandic. OK that may be why then. As I say reading it carefully you get the general gist of what's intended but there are a number of errors that look odd and doesn't fit in with what I've see you post before. Thanks.
But I still wonder, does any German plane have the range to fly from Germany to Iceland nonstop. |
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Post by stevep on Apr 2, 2019 10:05:31 GMT
OK that may be why then. As I say reading it carefully you get the general gist of what's intended but there are a number of errors that look odd and doesn't fit in with what I've see you post before. Thanks.
But I still wonder, does any German plane have the range to fly from Germany to Iceland nonstop.
I suspect the Condor's do, as they were used for long ranged reconnaissance and attacks on convoys, or at least from Norway to Iceland. Probably not even them from Germany itself because of both range and the fact they would have to fly over/near British airspace, which could be dangerous for them at night and probably downright lethal during the day.
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Post by lordroel on Apr 2, 2019 15:26:22 GMT
But I still wonder, does any German plane have the range to fly from Germany to Iceland nonstop. I suspect the Condor's do, as they were used for long ranged reconnaissance and attacks on convoys, or at least from Norway to Iceland. Probably not even them from Germany itself because of both range and the fact they would have to fly over/near British airspace, which could be dangerous for them at night and probably downright lethal during the day.
So even if the Germans mange to sneak, lets say a auxiliary cruiser to Iceland filled with troops, there is no place to land a Condor filled with reinforcements am i right. |
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Post by raunchel on Apr 2, 2019 15:35:16 GMT
I suspect the Condor's do, as they were used for long ranged reconnaissance and attacks on convoys, or at least from Norway to Iceland. Probably not even them from Germany itself because of both range and the fact they would have to fly over/near British airspace, which could be dangerous for them at night and probably downright lethal during the day.
So even if the Germans mange to sneak, lets say a auxiliary cruiser to Iceland filled with troops, there is no place to land a Condor filled with reinforcements am i right. I guess they could construct an airfield, probably with the help of local 'volunteers', but even then, resupply will be quite complicated because planes back then couldn't carry all that much over such distances. |
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Post by lordroel on Apr 2, 2019 15:38:23 GMT
So even if the Germans mange to sneak, lets say a auxiliary cruiser to Iceland filled with troops, there is no place to land a Condor filled with reinforcements am i right. I guess they could construct an airfield, probably with the help of local 'volunteers', but even then, resupply will be quite complicated because planes back then couldn't carry all that much over such distances. Seems there is Reykjavík Airport they could land and use. |
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Post by raunchel on Apr 2, 2019 16:08:58 GMT
I guess they could construct an airfield, probably with the help of local 'volunteers', but even then, resupply will be quite complicated because planes back then couldn't carry all that much over such distances. Seems there is Reykjavík Airport they could land and use. That should save that effort at least. But it leaves them with the issue of trying te resupply an island purely by air because ships getting there in the long term is far too difficult. |
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Post by stevep on Apr 2, 2019 16:14:36 GMT
I guess they could construct an airfield, probably with the help of local 'volunteers', but even then, resupply will be quite complicated because planes back then couldn't carry all that much over such distances. Seems there is Reykjavík Airport they could land and use.
If its big enough for a Condor to land there. However even if it is they would still need capacity to refuel a/c, possibly with defenders destroying any existing stocks before its seized or in terms of spares for the a/c.
Also as raunchel says its not going to be very effective as a source of supplies for the garrison.
Furthermore would the exiting 1940 airport close to the coast. If so a couple of RN cruisers turning up and supplying some 6" and 8" shells could cause a lot of damage.
What they would need would be a decent number of other, shorter ranged tactical a/c for defending the island against a liberation attempt but that needs getting both those a/c to the island, short ranged fighters especially probably not being able to ferry from Norway, along with spares, munitions and groundcrew to maintain them. Not an easy task I suspect.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2019 21:16:01 GMT
Not sure it could be used, seeing as the only Icelandic airline used floatplanes, and the first solid runway was built by the British. No heavy, long range aircraft could land at Reykjavik in 1940 and most of 1941, besides flying boats and floatplanes like the He115, He59, Do24 - I have looked into this for "Out of the Blue" Any attempt to seize Iceland would have to be largely maritime in nature. Having lost so much shipping taking Norway, Iceland offers nothing to the Reich strategically. |
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Post by lordroel on Apr 3, 2019 3:43:49 GMT
Not sure it could be used, seeing as the only Icelandic airline used floatplanes, and the first solid runway was built by the British. No heavy, long range aircraft could land at Reykjavik in 1940 and most of 1941, besides flying boats and floatplanes like the He115, He59, Do24 - I have looked into this for "Out of the Blue" Any attempt to seize Iceland would have to be largely maritime in nature. Having lost so much shipping taking Norway, Iceland offers nothing to the Reich strategically. Well that has never stopped Hitler if he really wanted it. |
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Post by stevep on Apr 3, 2019 8:05:01 GMT
Not sure it could be used, seeing as the only Icelandic airline used floatplanes, and the first solid runway was built by the British. No heavy, long range aircraft could land at Reykjavik in 1940 and most of 1941, besides flying boats and floatplanes like the He115, He59, Do24 - I have looked into this for "Out of the Blue" Any attempt to seize Iceland would have to be largely maritime in nature. Having lost so much shipping taking Norway, Iceland offers nothing to the Reich strategically. Well that has never stopped Hitler if he really wanted it.
It's never stopped him trying. That worked so well at the BoB, the invasion of Russia, Stalingrad, intervening in N Africa in Nov 43, all those no retreat orders.
Even if he manages to gain surprise and occupy the island its likely to cost him most of what's left of the navy and then he has an isolated garrison hundred's of miles from the nearest friendly base which can only be supplied effectively by sea. That is if he had a merchant marine and the RN and RAF suddenly ceased to exist.
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