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Post by lordroel on Dec 10, 2020 14:45:07 GMT
The March to War - The Great War Begins – Sabaton History 097
August 1914. Europe marched to war. Heavy boots resounded in unison over the pavement, while proud banners flew overhead the soldiers. Their leaders had promised them a short war. In a few weeks, maybe a couple of months, each man would return home as a hero. Cavalrymen in embroidered coats, white gloves, and plummeted caps rode ahead, surging towards the front in search of promised glory. But the perceived enthusiasm, eagerly exploited by the propaganda, was not widely shared. Instead, it was the gloomy atmosphere, full of fear and doubt.
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Post by lordroel on Dec 17, 2020 14:42:04 GMT
Firestorm – Strategic or Terror Bombing? – Sabaton History 098
At the end of July 1943, Hamburg burned. A fleet of British heavy bombers had dropped thousands of incendiaries over the city, turning it into a hearth of unprecedented dimensions. Numerous major fires merged together into a single storm of fire. Structures combusted under the immense heat, as strong winds drove the inferno through the streets at rapid speed. Craving for more oxygen, the firestorm sucked human bodies into the flames and immediately incinerated or mummified them. Thousands of others died slowly of carbon monoxide poisoning in their shelters. By the end of the raid, 60% of Hamburg had been burned out and more than 35,000 of its inhabitants were dead. But while the Germans were shocked to disbelief, for the British the firestorm has worked as intended. And this was just the beginning.
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Post by stevep on Dec 17, 2020 15:53:37 GMT
Firestorm – Strategic or Terror Bombing? – Sabaton History 098At the end of July 1943, Hamburg burned. A fleet of British heavy bombers had dropped thousands of incendiaries over the city, turning it into a hearth of unprecedented dimensions. Numerous major fires merged together into a single storm of fire. Structures combusted under the immense heat, as strong winds drove the inferno through the streets at rapid speed. Craving for more oxygen, the firestorm sucked human bodies into the flames and immediately incinerated or mummified them. Thousands of others died slowly of carbon monoxide poisoning in their shelters. By the end of the raid, 60% of Hamburg had been burned out and more than 35,000 of its inhabitants were dead. But while the Germans were shocked to disbelief, for the British the firestorm has worked as intended. And this was just the beginning.
I was surprised about how much planning went into the Hamburg attacks. As you probably know from what I've said elsewhere I have serious doubts about the strategic bombing campaign in WWII. Less on moral grounds as the war had to be won and in the middle part -circu 40-42 it was the only practical way Britain could fight back with any effect, than that it took up far too many British/allied resources compared to the effect on the enemy. Definitely more moral concerns on the Anglo-American bombing of Dresden and the American attacks on Japan during the last stages of the war. The latter were very efficient but were definitely aimed at killing people, not destroying industrial capacity as some claim.
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Post by lordroel on Dec 17, 2020 15:55:52 GMT
Firestorm – Strategic or Terror Bombing? – Sabaton History 098At the end of July 1943, Hamburg burned. A fleet of British heavy bombers had dropped thousands of incendiaries over the city, turning it into a hearth of unprecedented dimensions. Numerous major fires merged together into a single storm of fire. Structures combusted under the immense heat, as strong winds drove the inferno through the streets at rapid speed. Craving for more oxygen, the firestorm sucked human bodies into the flames and immediately incinerated or mummified them. Thousands of others died slowly of carbon monoxide poisoning in their shelters. By the end of the raid, 60% of Hamburg had been burned out and more than 35,000 of its inhabitants were dead. But while the Germans were shocked to disbelief, for the British the firestorm has worked as intended. And this was just the beginning. I was surprised about how much planning went into the Hamburg attacks. As you probably know from what I've said elsewhere I have serious doubts about the strategic bombing campaign in WWII. Less on moral grounds as the war had to be won and in the middle part -circu 40-42 it was the only practical way Britain could fight back with any effect, than that it took up far too many British/allied resources compared to the effect on the enemy. Definitely more moral concerns on the Anglo-American bombing of Dresden and the American attacks on Japan during the last stages of the war. The latter were very efficient but were definitely aimed at killing people, not destroying industrial capacity as some claim.
I also wonder, what the effect was in bombing entire cities, just to hamper war production. The Germans and Japanese adapted to it by moving their production underground ore to spread it as much as they could. |
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Post by stevep on Dec 17, 2020 16:04:52 GMT
I was surprised about how much planning went into the Hamburg attacks. As you probably know from what I've said elsewhere I have serious doubts about the strategic bombing campaign in WWII. Less on moral grounds as the war had to be won and in the middle part -circu 40-42 it was the only practical way Britain could fight back with any effect, than that it took up far too many British/allied resources compared to the effect on the enemy. Definitely more moral concerns on the Anglo-American bombing of Dresden and the American attacks on Japan during the last stages of the war. The latter were very efficient but were definitely aimed at killing people, not destroying industrial capacity as some claim.
I also wonder, what the effect was in bombing entire cities, just to hamper war production. The Germans and Japanese adapted to it by moving their production underground ore to spread it as much as they could.
I think the Japanese didn't really have the time to disperse or move production underground as large scale attacks on them only really happened in 1945. Germany made a great effort to disperse production and also a lot of work on underground production but both of those had considerable economic costs in themselves. However whether it was worth the cost to the allies as the resources to produce and operate the huge strategic forces was massive, especially proportionally for Britain. I think the US put more into developing the B-29 than what they did in the Manhattan Project.
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Post by lordroel on Dec 17, 2020 16:09:41 GMT
I also wonder, what the effect was in bombing entire cities, just to hamper war production. The Germans and Japanese adapted to it by moving their production underground ore to spread it as much as they could. I think the Japanese didn't really have the time to disperse or move production underground as large scale attacks on them only really happened in 1945. Germany made a great effort to disperse production and also a lot of work on underground production but both of those had considerable economic costs in themselves. However whether it was worth the cost to the allies as the resources to produce and operate the huge strategic forces was massive, especially proportionally for Britain. I think the US put more into developing the B-29 than what they did in the Manhattan Project. Well the B-29 and the fire bombing raid did as much ore even more damage than the 2 single atom bombs, the only advantages they had was that to get to the result of Nagasaki and Hiroshima, they only needed 1 single B-29 instead of hundreds of them in a single raid. |
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Post by lordroel on Dec 24, 2020 14:32:36 GMT
Swedish Pagans – Vikings & The Russ – Sabaton History 099
It was a sword-age, a spear-age - an age when fearsome Northmen, savage Vikings, and mysterious pagans from across the sea haunted the shores of northern Europe. The Swedish pagans, believing in the fate of the old Norse gods, traveled south across the Baltic Sea and deep into modern-day Russia. With their sleek longships, they sailed along the big rivers, ever southwards to reach Miklagard. Miklagard - the Great City - that was Constantinople, where the Swedish Pagans sold slaves and goods from the north for silver and coin. Those who made the long hazardous journey and survived the treacherous country were to be rich men.
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Post by lordroel on Dec 31, 2020 14:56:27 GMT
Wolfpack Pt. 2 - The Torpedoing - Sabaton History 100
The Allies had cracked the secret codes, deprived the German Kriegsmarine of their best U-Boat aces, and sunk more submarines than the Germans could replace. Yet the Wolfpacks returned. From the depth of the sea they continued their hunt, even far away from the busy routes of the Atlantic. On their way south, along the coast of Africa, Wolfpack "Eisbär" would engage in a fateful encounter. An encounter that would demonstrate how the old rules of conduct, honor and mercy had become a thing of the past.
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Post by eurowatch on Jan 7, 2021 14:40:14 GMT
This One Is For You! – Farewell But Not Goodbye – Sabaton History 101
Join Sabaton and Indy on a trip down memory lane to revisit some of their favorite Sabaton History moments and discover some never-seen-before clips from our channel!
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Post by lordroel on Mar 13, 2021 11:01:07 GMT
Livgardet – 500 Years in Service of the King – Sabaton History 102
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Post by oscssw on Apr 2, 2021 14:15:30 GMT
Livgardet – 500 Years in Service of the King – Sabaton History 102 I am very happy Sabaton history continues. I love their music. The Banter between the band members and Indy is side splitting.
Makes me feel young again, when heavy metal music was the staple of the clubs I went to on liberty around the world. I have been listening to Country for a long time now and still will. Thought my heavy metal days were over; but with Sabaton they are back. |
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Post by lordroel on Apr 2, 2021 14:18:56 GMT
Livgardet – 500 Years in Service of the King – Sabaton History 102 I am very happy Sabaton history continues. I love their music. The Banter between the band members and Indy is side splitting.
Makes me feel young again, when heavy metal music was the staple of the clubs I went to on liberty around the world. I have been listening to Country for a long time now and still will. Thought my heavy metal days were over; but with Sabaton they are back. I agree, but the last couple of episodes where more a part two of some of their songs, the weekly updates ended just in time, now i hoop they will keep updating Sabaton Historyy when there are some new songs. |
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Post by lordroel on Jun 17, 2021 14:00:19 GMT
Defence of Moscow - Autumn 1941- Sabaton History – Sabaton History 103
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Post by lordroel on Jul 10, 2021 14:02:35 GMT
The Royal Guard - Livgardet and the Kalabalik at Bender – Sabaton History 104
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Post by lordroel on Aug 16, 2021 14:02:31 GMT
Gods of Heavy Metal - Judas Priest - Sabaton History 105
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