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Post by simon darkshade on Dec 19, 2018 16:29:39 GMT
They certainly have advantages in regards to training and equipment.
The Chinese motor rifle divisions are at this point simply motorised infantry; it is planned to incorporate tanks when production builds up enough numbers.
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Post by lordroel on Dec 19, 2018 16:33:54 GMT
They certainly have advantages in regards to training and equipment. The Chinese motor rifle divisions are at this point simply motorised infantry; it is planned to incorporate tanks when production builds up enough numbers. Are most of the Chinese aircraft Soviet designs ore do the Chinese have their own designs. |
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Post by stevep on Dec 19, 2018 18:35:51 GMT
The states are larger, but I simply didn't name all of the other Dominions. As of 1960, that list consists of: New Zealand Rhodesia Israel Newfoundland New Avalon Prydain West Indies Kenya, Malaya and Ceylon will join that list in a few years, along with Bensalem (@ New Caledonia). No other current colonies have independence on the immediate horizon; that basically consists of the West and East African groups, as the Pacific islands and various other islands are a long way off.
Ah I was remembering the name wrongly. It was New Avalon rather than New Albion.  |
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Post by stevep on Dec 19, 2018 18:42:11 GMT
They certainly have advantages in regards to training and equipment. The Chinese motor rifle divisions are at this point simply motorised infantry; it is planned to incorporate tanks when production builds up enough numbers.
Although its a traditional empire rather than a communist state the name convention sounds very like Soviet ones. Are they based on Soviet layout and doctrine, other than yet by the sound of it having no armour at all?
With the subs you have
What is the difference between the two numbers please?
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Post by lordroel on Dec 19, 2018 18:45:19 GMT
With the subs you have
What is the difference between the two numbers please?
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Could that be the once they have and the once they are building ore want to build. |
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Post by stevep on Dec 19, 2018 20:44:51 GMT
With the subs you have
What is the difference between the two numbers please?
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Could that be the once they have and the once they are building ore want to build.
Probably one of those two options. However would be useful to know. Could also be active and reserve units possibly?
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Post by simon darkshade on Dec 19, 2018 23:43:54 GMT
The first number indicates the current active fleet and the second is vessels under construction or ordered.
The Chinese do still follow something of a Soviet military nomenclature in a hangover from the period of 1946-1954, when there was extensive cooperation and support. This will likely change in the 1950s, along with other signs, such as small arms and artillery calibres.
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Post by simon darkshade on Dec 20, 2018 0:20:51 GMT
They certainly have advantages in regards to training and equipment. The Chinese motor rifle divisions are at this point simply motorised infantry; it is planned to incorporate tanks when production builds up enough numbers. Are most of the Chinese aircraft Soviet designs ore do the Chinese have their own designs. The H-1 light bombers and the J-2 fighters are copies of Soviet designs; the subsequent aircraft are Chinese designs of various degrees. Hong-2: A four engined medium based on the Tu-16 Hong-3: An eight engined heavy bomber similar in some ways to the B-60 Hong-4: A ten engined bomber that is a completely original Chinese design. Q-4 strike bomber: A delta winged aircraft similar to an enlarged Mirage IV Q-2 attack fighter: Nanchang Q5 J-3 fighter: Broadly similar to the Mig-17, produced without licence J-4 interceptor: A Su-9 adaption J-5 fighter/bomber: Developed from the Su-7 and Hunters captured in the Korean War. A very capable aircraft. J-6 fighter: A independent Chinese supersonic design. Twin engines, tailed delta wing and a solid nose carrying a decent radar. Two 23mm cannon, 4 AAM and 2-4 short range AAM Y-2: Turboprop plane similar to the C-160, independently developed Y-3: Enlarged adaption of the An-12 Cub |
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Post by lordroel on Dec 20, 2018 4:10:14 GMT
Hong-4: A ten engined bomber that is a completely original Chinese design. That must be a very big bomber then. |
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Post by simon darkshade on Dec 20, 2018 5:27:06 GMT
It is a very large bomber, principally because of requirements of range and the power limits on current Chinese engines.
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Post by lordroel on Dec 20, 2018 16:38:12 GMT
It is a very large bomber, principally because of requirements of range and the power limits on current Chinese engines. You mean because they are Chinese made engines, you need 10 to have the same power as a British ore american bomber who is the same size but who has fewer but more powerful engines. |
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Post by eurowatch on Dec 20, 2018 16:50:30 GMT
It is a very large bomber, principally because of requirements of range and the power limits on current Chinese engines. You mean because they are Chinese made engines, you need 10 to have the same power as a British ore american bomber who is the same size but who has fewer but more powerful engines. Reminds me of a Russian joke about Chinese Technology levels: Yesterday an American submarine a Chinese submarine collided With each other. The Americans lost five to drowning. The Chinese losses were of three thousand rowers. |
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Post by simon darkshade on Dec 21, 2018 10:03:29 GMT
That is an amusing one.
The most modern versions of the Dark Earth B-52 and Avro Vulcan have eight engines, each with a maximum thrust of over 20000lbf. The most powerful Chinese engine at this time is around 15000lbf, as they have been cut off from access to the more powerful Soviet engines in the 20000-24000lbf class such as the Mikulin AM-3 and the Dobrynin RD-7.
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Post by lordroel on Dec 21, 2018 10:23:15 GMT
That is an amusing one. The most modern versions of the Dark Earth B-52 and Avro Vulcan have eight engines, each with a maximum thrust of over 20000lbf. The most powerful Chinese engine at this time is around 15000lbf, as they have been cut off from access to the more powerful Soviet engines in the 20000-24000lbf class such as the Mikulin AM-3 and the Dobrynin RD-7. So the Sino-Soviet split also happen in the Darkearth verse as well. |
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Post by simon darkshade on Dec 21, 2018 14:30:04 GMT
Yes, it occurs somewhat earlier in the final conflagration at the end of the Korean War.
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