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Post by lordroel on Feb 19, 2022 15:15:59 GMT
On the immediate level, yes. There are quite frequently multiple British, Commonwealth and American warships at Hong Kong on liberty, in addition to the cruisers attached to China Squadron and the guardship. In the case of a dispute over territorial waters and sea lanes, the dominant naval power has the advantage. But Hong Kong would lose as i assume the Imperial Chinese Army has a large force outside Hong Kong border. |
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Post by stevep on Feb 19, 2022 15:18:11 GMT
Try again after some finger problems lost my 1st attempt! 
February 1969February 1: Signing of initial agreements for the construction of a new planned city of over 250,000 inhabitants in Wyoming. - any particular reason why? February 3: Establishment of a special FBI task force for the investigation of strange or paranormal incidents that defy ordinary natural or supernatural explanation; it is dubbed the ‘Y-Files Group’ by assigned officers as a homonymous pun. -  February 5: Star Trek debuts on the BBC, attracting favourable reviews for the international crew of the USS Enterprise (particularly the British first officer William Sanderson), clever parallels to Cold War political rivalries in space and ground-breaking special effects. - Ah a bit more political than OTL? February 7: Monitoring stations record the highest ever gust of wind in the British Isles at Kirkwall in Orkney, with the freak wind measuring 245mph. A meteorologist in situ is alarmed by the sight of a tartan-clad elderly lady holding on to her tam o’shanter as she is seemingly blown to her demise, but is assured by authorities that nothing is awry and that her presence is part of a secret sorcerous experiment being carried out by United Dairies. - 
February 8: The inhabitants of Pueblito de Allende in Chihuahua are roused from their slumbers in the middle of the night by a large meteor that explodes in the atmosphere above the village, raining it with strange fragments. Many villagers immediately fall ill, with children being particularly affected. - Hope this isn't another Midwich Cuckoo case?
February 9: Introduction of a new series of trams by the London Passenger Transport Board in the iconic green livery of the previous Feltham trams. - Good way of moving people about cheaply and reliably but wonder if there's a cultural reference there I'm missing? February 11: Donald Campbell sets a new landspeed record of 962.5 mph in his Bluebird Mach 1.25 rocket car in South Australia. - Still alive and setting records. - 
February 12: Jean-Louis Beaucourt, the Marquis d’Ambreville is formally appointed by King Louis as the new Prime Minister of France. - Sounds like not only a military dictatorship but a highly reactionary one. 
February 13: Canada's population passes 80 million, with CBC marking the occasion with a reflective special on the future of Canada as a great power, noting that whilst the Dominion's population remains under a quarter of her southern neighbour, her relative economic position has improved drastically since 1940 rising from a tenth of US GDP to just under a fifth and now comfortably exceeding that of Italy and Austria-Hungary. - Very good for Canada and also for the wider British dominion.
February 14: The United States Navy announces the expansion of the SEALAB Program into two permanent undersea facility for up to a thousand scientists and aquanauts each off the coasts of California and Florida. - As long as nothing decides "Oh goodie, canned food".
February 15: LIFE Magazine carries an extended feature profile on 'The 1960s Generation', writing admiringly of their answer to the call of duty in warfare, science and industry and how 'affluence has not spoiled them, nor the years of peace contemned'. - Sounds rather too Soviet for my case to be honest.
February 16: A group of luxury yachts stray into Chinese territorial waters whilst travelling from Hong Kong to Macao and are promptly boarded and detained by Imperial Chinese Navy gunboats. As they being moved towards the Chinese side of the Pearl Delta, Royal Navy patrol boats supported by the cruiser HMS Telamon, RAF Lightnings and Army Tiger gunships react to the sorcerous distress call of one of the yachts, sparking a tense standoff that sees coastal artillery on Hong Kong Island trained upon the Chinese flotilla. After almost 12 hours of careful negotiations, during which time USN and RN carrier aircraft and two Chinese destroyers join the arrayed forces, the yachts and their crew are released after an effusive apology by their skippers. - Tense and good it seems to have been defused.
February 17: Opening of an unofficial US-Soviet back channel for dialogue in a Kabul library, with productive discussions on the reduction of tensions and the potential resolution of the Indochina conflict being conducted between diplomats in hushed tones after being told off by the librarian for talking too loudly. -  The Librarian gets his priorities right.
February 18: Successful launch of the largest German satellite to date from the Imperial Spaceport in Lamu, Kenya. - So we're helping the German space missions. Interesting.
February 19: The International Union for Conservation of Nature shifts the African tiger from its 'vulnerable' category to 'not threatened', with its President, Sir Christopher Walker, hailing the dedicated efforts of international conservationists lead by Tarzan and African governments in reducing poaching and the illegal trade in tiger skins. - Tiger's in Africa?? Has this been mentioned before?
February 20: Dissolution of the Senate Subcommittee on Indian Affairs in line with ongoing policy of Indian termination. - Sorry can you clarify please? British or US Indian? Senate sounds like the latter. Also by termination, given US history that could sound very ominous.
February 21: A powerful new volcanic eruption begins on Deception Island in the South Shetland islands. - Natural or not. As with so much in DE that is the question.
February 22: The British Joint Special Intelligence Committee reports that a new Red Army main battle tank is entering production. It is believed to be 54t, has a main armament of a new 130mm gun and is powered by a gas turbine engine. - An earlier and enlarged version of the T-72? Although the gas turbine is distinctly different.
February 24: Prince Charles and Princess Victoria of Ruritania are noted for their close attendance upon each other at a grand royal ball at Windsor Castle after a successful hunt of hinds, wild boar and aurochs in the Royal Park. - Ugh!
February 26: Golda Myerson becomes the first woman to be appointed as Prime Minister of a Commonwealth country, as she ascends to the premiership of Israel. -
February 27: The Indian government narrowly avoids losing a vote of no confidence in the House of the People over long running disputes regarding international relations and alignment with the West. The National Party, lead by the popular Sanjay Prasad, advocate for a more independent Indian foreign policy in contrast to the resolutely pro-Western position supported by the governing Democratic-Union Party coalition. - Tensions in India but I wonder what Prasad's actual policy would be if he gained power. There's no real room for a Non-Aligned movement in the DE world I think and he would take a hell of a risk trying to move towards the Soviet/Chinese 'bloc'.
February 28: British and West Indian battalion arrive in Guiana to assist in the suppression of an Indian uprising. - Are the latter the majority population I think they were OTL?
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Post by simon darkshade on Feb 19, 2022 15:24:26 GMT
This issue has arisen before and the answer remains the same - the British have tactical nuclear weapons in Hong Kong and the ability to hit at least fifty Chinese cities with SLBMs with flight times of around 12 minutes.
Should the Chinese cross the border - which runs along the border of Dongguan and Shenzhen in @ - then they won’t even get through the minefields before they get nuked, followed by losing Peking, Shanghai, Nanking and a few dozen more cities a few minutes later.
That doesn’t seem like a good trade off.
In any event, Hong Kong doesn’t have a token garrison, but a reasonably robust one of a reinforced division with Chieftains and modern artillery, in addition to the border defences.
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Post by lordroel on Feb 19, 2022 15:25:35 GMT
This issue has arisen before and the answer remains the same - the British have tactical nuclear weapons in Hong Kong and the ability to hit at least fifty Chinese cities with SLBMs with flight times of around 12 minutes. Should the Chinese cross the border - which runs along the border of Dongguan and Shenzhen in @ - then they won’t even get through the minefields before they get nuked, followed by losing Peking, Shanghai, Nanking and a few dozen more cities a few minutes later. That doesn’t seem like a good trade off. In any event, Hong Kong doesn’t have a token garrison, but a reasonably robust one of a reinforced division with Chieftains and modern artillery, in addition to the border defences. normal minefields ore armed with nukes to spice things up a bit. |
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Post by simon darkshade on Feb 19, 2022 15:35:17 GMT
Just ordinary minefields, in multiple layers, combined with anti-tank ditches, dragon’s teeth, fences, cleared areas, razor wire entanglements and more fences. All that is covered by a triple layered line of bunkers, tank turrets and pillboxes.
The border is a bit like the Inner German border crossed with the Maginot Line. There are roads through it and a lot of trade, but relations in the 18 years since Korea have been tense.
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Post by lordroel on Feb 19, 2022 15:36:55 GMT
February 24: Prince Charles and Princess Victoria of Ruritania are noted for their close attendance upon each other at a grand royal ball at Windsor Castle after a successful hunt of hinds, wild boar and aurochs in the Royal Park. The royal matchmakers strike the jackpot. |
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Post by simon darkshade on Feb 19, 2022 15:39:39 GMT
Yes, largely in a public consumption sense. They like each other, but know enough to lay it on a bit thicker in public.
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Post by simon darkshade on Feb 20, 2022 3:29:59 GMT
Try again after some finger problems lost my 1st attempt! 
February 1969February 1: Signing of initial agreements for the construction of a new planned city of over 250,000 inhabitants in Wyoming. - any particular reason why? February 3: Establishment of a special FBI task force for the investigation of strange or paranormal incidents that defy ordinary natural or supernatural explanation; it is dubbed the ‘Y-Files Group’ by assigned officers as a homonymous pun. -  February 5: Star Trek debuts on the BBC, attracting favourable reviews for the international crew of the USS Enterprise (particularly the British first officer William Sanderson), clever parallels to Cold War political rivalries in space and ground-breaking special effects. - Ah a bit more political than OTL? February 7: Monitoring stations record the highest ever gust of wind in the British Isles at Kirkwall in Orkney, with the freak wind measuring 245mph. A meteorologist in situ is alarmed by the sight of a tartan-clad elderly lady holding on to her tam o’shanter as she is seemingly blown to her demise, but is assured by authorities that nothing is awry and that her presence is part of a secret sorcerous experiment being carried out by United Dairies. - 
February 8: The inhabitants of Pueblito de Allende in Chihuahua are roused from their slumbers in the middle of the night by a large meteor that explodes in the atmosphere above the village, raining it with strange fragments. Many villagers immediately fall ill, with children being particularly affected. - Hope this isn't another Midwich Cuckoo case?
February 9: Introduction of a new series of trams by the London Passenger Transport Board in the iconic green livery of the previous Feltham trams. - Good way of moving people about cheaply and reliably but wonder if there's a cultural reference there I'm missing? February 11: Donald Campbell sets a new landspeed record of 962.5 mph in his Bluebird Mach 1.25 rocket car in South Australia. - Still alive and setting records. - 
February 12: Jean-Louis Beaucourt, the Marquis d’Ambreville is formally appointed by King Louis as the new Prime Minister of France. - Sounds like not only a military dictatorship but a highly reactionary one. 
February 13: Canada's population passes 80 million, with CBC marking the occasion with a reflective special on the future of Canada as a great power, noting that whilst the Dominion's population remains under a quarter of her southern neighbour, her relative economic position has improved drastically since 1940 rising from a tenth of US GDP to just under a fifth and now comfortably exceeding that of Italy and Austria-Hungary. - Very good for Canada and also for the wider British dominion.
February 14: The United States Navy announces the expansion of the SEALAB Program into two permanent undersea facility for up to a thousand scientists and aquanauts each off the coasts of California and Florida. - As long as nothing decides "Oh goodie, canned food".
February 15: LIFE Magazine carries an extended feature profile on 'The 1960s Generation', writing admiringly of their answer to the call of duty in warfare, science and industry and how 'affluence has not spoiled them, nor the years of peace contemned'. - Sounds rather too Soviet for my case to be honest.
February 16: A group of luxury yachts stray into Chinese territorial waters whilst travelling from Hong Kong to Macao and are promptly boarded and detained by Imperial Chinese Navy gunboats. As they being moved towards the Chinese side of the Pearl Delta, Royal Navy patrol boats supported by the cruiser HMS Telamon, RAF Lightnings and Army Tiger gunships react to the sorcerous distress call of one of the yachts, sparking a tense standoff that sees coastal artillery on Hong Kong Island trained upon the Chinese flotilla. After almost 12 hours of careful negotiations, during which time USN and RN carrier aircraft and two Chinese destroyers join the arrayed forces, the yachts and their crew are released after an effusive apology by their skippers. - Tense and good it seems to have been defused.
February 17: Opening of an unofficial US-Soviet back channel for dialogue in a Kabul library, with productive discussions on the reduction of tensions and the potential resolution of the Indochina conflict being conducted between diplomats in hushed tones after being told off by the librarian for talking too loudly. -  The Librarian gets his priorities right.
February 18: Successful launch of the largest German satellite to date from the Imperial Spaceport in Lamu, Kenya. - So we're helping the German space missions. Interesting.
February 19: The International Union for Conservation of Nature shifts the African tiger from its 'vulnerable' category to 'not threatened', with its President, Sir Christopher Walker, hailing the dedicated efforts of international conservationists lead by Tarzan and African governments in reducing poaching and the illegal trade in tiger skins. - Tiger's in Africa?? Has this been mentioned before?
February 20: Dissolution of the Senate Subcommittee on Indian Affairs in line with ongoing policy of Indian termination. - Sorry can you clarify please? British or US Indian? Senate sounds like the latter. Also by termination, given US history that could sound very ominous.
February 21: A powerful new volcanic eruption begins on Deception Island in the South Shetland islands. - Natural or not. As with so much in DE that is the question.
February 22: The British Joint Special Intelligence Committee reports that a new Red Army main battle tank is entering production. It is believed to be 54t, has a main armament of a new 130mm gun and is powered by a gas turbine engine. - An earlier and enlarged version of the T-72? Although the gas turbine is distinctly different.
February 24: Prince Charles and Princess Victoria of Ruritania are noted for their close attendance upon each other at a grand royal ball at Windsor Castle after a successful hunt of hinds, wild boar and aurochs in the Royal Park. - Ugh!
February 26: Golda Myerson becomes the first woman to be appointed as Prime Minister of a Commonwealth country, as she ascends to the premiership of Israel. -
February 27: The Indian government narrowly avoids losing a vote of no confidence in the House of the People over long running disputes regarding international relations and alignment with the West. The National Party, lead by the popular Sanjay Prasad, advocate for a more independent Indian foreign policy in contrast to the resolutely pro-Western position supported by the governing Democratic-Union Party coalition. - Tensions in India but I wonder what Prasad's actual policy would be if he gained power. There's no real room for a Non-Aligned movement in the DE world I think and he would take a hell of a risk trying to move towards the Soviet/Chinese 'bloc'.
February 28: British and West Indian battalion arrive in Guiana to assist in the suppression of an Indian uprising. - Are the latter the majority population I think they were OTL?
Steve, 1.) Wyoming has seen some expanded mining operations (iron as well as coal), but the biggest driver is Federal funding, based upon a 'Project Heartland' and some defence projects. 2.) It had to be done, as the X Files idea would not work in the changed world, as well as being a delicious pun. 3.) A tad more political, with the Klingons and Romulans being more direct expys of the Soviets and Chinese and there being a bit more of a different Anglo-American relationship onboard the Enterprise. 4.) Stand back Superman, Einstein or Spiderman, Batman or Robin too. Don't want to cause a ruckus with B.A. Barracus, but I've got a match for you. She makes them look like a bunch of fairies and indeed, has more bottle than United Dairies.  5.) It isn't a Midwich scenario, but is something strange nonetheless... 6.) No huge reference, simply a case of green London trams becoming as broadly recognisable as red London buses, red post boxes, black London cabs and blue police boxes. Finding a commonplace public object or vehicle that could be yellow is the next step, as I do have a liking for a combination of the primary colours + green. 7.) That he is. He is reaching the point where he has pushed the envelope pretty far, but there are some water speed opportunities still open. 8.) Not really a military dictatorship per se. He does look upon Napoleon and de Gaulle as examples, but doesn't have power as his sole objective. He wants to have a proper election as soon as possible to legitimise his position. 9.) Canada is going very well and this leads to a very different sense of where it seeks to go as a nation. Rather than being caught up with the Quebec/Francophone issue, peacekeeping and shifting away from its old British roots, this is a Canada that has a discernably different identity and is going down a very different path. 10.) The facilities will not be undefended by any stretch. 11.) I based the wording on that of US magazines of the 1940s and 50s and British works from the same period, combined with a touch of pre WW1 style. Where we are used to somewhat less strident terms and general public language, particularly from the 1960s onwards, there was a discernable difference going back even a generation before. The 1960s have seen the US military swell well beyond the levels reached in Korea, which in turn were much larger than @. This has a flow on effect on popular culture. 12.) Two steps forward, one step backwards seems the order of the day in Hong Kong as a flashpoint between the West and China, with the latter increasingly flexing its muscles as a matter of course. 13.) Absolutely. It may be the fate of the world at stake, but rules are rules! 14.) It is part of the secret agreement to help 'persuade' the Germans not to antagonise the Soviets and other European nations with full rearmament, as well as a British effort to ensure that the Germans don't get too friendly with the French and engineer a continental bloc. In this way, the Lapcat intelligence/Sam Johnson's thoughts and opinions end up having an opposite effect than what he would have liked, cementing a belief by certain factions in the British government that promotion of European unity would be a very bad thing. 15.) Yes, they have had a mention on a few occasions, albeit obliquely in some cases. Just one of the many notes of difference to make a reader react in exactly the way that you have. 16.) They are American Indians/Native Americans. Indian termination was basically a policy of assimilation and incorporating Indians into mainstream American society en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_termination_policy17.) It is a historical eruption, but the British are very keen on keeping the eyes of the world away from the area 18.) You are quite correct. It is a bigger and tougher T-72 with the gas turbine engine of the T-80, developed in response to the stronger Western tanks. It represents a Soviet advance closer towards competitive status in armour. 19.) It is a fair bit of romantic courting for public consumption. 20.) Note her different surname and the absence of Hebraization of surnames that occurred in Israel in the @ 1950s. 21.) You hit the nail on the head quite well. There isn't the scope for a NAM and trying for rapprochement with either of China or the USSR would set off the other. India is caught a bit betwixt and between, particularly for those who want her to make the jump to being a Great Power - there isn't really a gap or an area for them to fill. |
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Post by stevep on Feb 20, 2022 16:32:48 GMT
Try again after some finger problems lost my 1st attempt!
February 1969February 1: Signing of initial agreements for the construction of a new planned city of over 250,000 inhabitants in Wyoming. - any particular reason why? February 3: Establishment of a special FBI task force for the investigation of strange or paranormal incidents that defy ordinary natural or supernatural explanation; it is dubbed the ‘Y-Files Group’ by assigned officers as a homonymous pun. - February 5: Star Trek debuts on the BBC, attracting favourable reviews for the international crew of the USS Enterprise (particularly the British first officer William Sanderson), clever parallels to Cold War political rivalries in space and ground-breaking special effects. - Ah a bit more political than OTL? February 7: Monitoring stations record the highest ever gust of wind in the British Isles at Kirkwall in Orkney, with the freak wind measuring 245mph. A meteorologist in situ is alarmed by the sight of a tartan-clad elderly lady holding on to her tam o’shanter as she is seemingly blown to her demise, but is assured by authorities that nothing is awry and that her presence is part of a secret sorcerous experiment being carried out by United Dairies. -
February 8: The inhabitants of Pueblito de Allende in Chihuahua are roused from their slumbers in the middle of the night by a large meteor that explodes in the atmosphere above the village, raining it with strange fragments. Many villagers immediately fall ill, with children being particularly affected. - Hope this isn't another Midwich Cuckoo case?
February 9: Introduction of a new series of trams by the London Passenger Transport Board in the iconic green livery of the previous Feltham trams. - Good way of moving people about cheaply and reliably but wonder if there's a cultural reference there I'm missing? February 11: Donald Campbell sets a new landspeed record of 962.5 mph in his Bluebird Mach 1.25 rocket car in South Australia. - Still alive and setting records. -
February 12: Jean-Louis Beaucourt, the Marquis d’Ambreville is formally appointed by King Louis as the new Prime Minister of France. - Sounds like not only a military dictatorship but a highly reactionary one.
February 13: Canada's population passes 80 million, with CBC marking the occasion with a reflective special on the future of Canada as a great power, noting that whilst the Dominion's population remains under a quarter of her southern neighbour, her relative economic position has improved drastically since 1940 rising from a tenth of US GDP to just under a fifth and now comfortably exceeding that of Italy and Austria-Hungary. - Very good for Canada and also for the wider British dominion.
February 14: The United States Navy announces the expansion of the SEALAB Program into two permanent undersea facility for up to a thousand scientists and aquanauts each off the coasts of California and Florida. - As long as nothing decides "Oh goodie, canned food".
February 15: LIFE Magazine carries an extended feature profile on 'The 1960s Generation', writing admiringly of their answer to the call of duty in warfare, science and industry and how 'affluence has not spoiled them, nor the years of peace contemned'. - Sounds rather too Soviet for my case to be honest.
February 16: A group of luxury yachts stray into Chinese territorial waters whilst travelling from Hong Kong to Macao and are promptly boarded and detained by Imperial Chinese Navy gunboats. As they being moved towards the Chinese side of the Pearl Delta, Royal Navy patrol boats supported by the cruiser HMS Telamon, RAF Lightnings and Army Tiger gunships react to the sorcerous distress call of one of the yachts, sparking a tense standoff that sees coastal artillery on Hong Kong Island trained upon the Chinese flotilla. After almost 12 hours of careful negotiations, during which time USN and RN carrier aircraft and two Chinese destroyers join the arrayed forces, the yachts and their crew are released after an effusive apology by their skippers. - Tense and good it seems to have been defused.
February 17: Opening of an unofficial US-Soviet back channel for dialogue in a Kabul library, with productive discussions on the reduction of tensions and the potential resolution of the Indochina conflict being conducted between diplomats in hushed tones after being told off by the librarian for talking too loudly. - The Librarian gets his priorities right.
February 18: Successful launch of the largest German satellite to date from the Imperial Spaceport in Lamu, Kenya. - So we're helping the German space missions. Interesting.
February 19: The International Union for Conservation of Nature shifts the African tiger from its 'vulnerable' category to 'not threatened', with its President, Sir Christopher Walker, hailing the dedicated efforts of international conservationists lead by Tarzan and African governments in reducing poaching and the illegal trade in tiger skins. - Tiger's in Africa?? Has this been mentioned before?
February 20: Dissolution of the Senate Subcommittee on Indian Affairs in line with ongoing policy of Indian termination. - Sorry can you clarify please? British or US Indian? Senate sounds like the latter. Also by termination, given US history that could sound very ominous.
February 21: A powerful new volcanic eruption begins on Deception Island in the South Shetland islands. - Natural or not. As with so much in DE that is the question.
February 22: The British Joint Special Intelligence Committee reports that a new Red Army main battle tank is entering production. It is believed to be 54t, has a main armament of a new 130mm gun and is powered by a gas turbine engine. - An earlier and enlarged version of the T-72? Although the gas turbine is distinctly different.
February 24: Prince Charles and Princess Victoria of Ruritania are noted for their close attendance upon each other at a grand royal ball at Windsor Castle after a successful hunt of hinds, wild boar and aurochs in the Royal Park. - Ugh!
February 26: Golda Myerson becomes the first woman to be appointed as Prime Minister of a Commonwealth country, as she ascends to the premiership of Israel. -
February 27: The Indian government narrowly avoids losing a vote of no confidence in the House of the People over long running disputes regarding international relations and alignment with the West. The National Party, lead by the popular Sanjay Prasad, advocate for a more independent Indian foreign policy in contrast to the resolutely pro-Western position supported by the governing Democratic-Union Party coalition. - Tensions in India but I wonder what Prasad's actual policy would be if he gained power. There's no real room for a Non-Aligned movement in the DE world I think and he would take a hell of a risk trying to move towards the Soviet/Chinese 'bloc'.
February 28: British and West Indian battalion arrive in Guiana to assist in the suppression of an Indian uprising. - Are the latter the majority population I think they were OTL?
Steve, 1.) Wyoming has seen some expanded mining operations (iron as well as coal), but the biggest driver is Federal funding, based upon a 'Project Heartland' and some defence projects. 2.) It had to be done, as the X Files idea would not work in the changed world, as well as being a delicious pun. 3.) A tad more political, with the Klingons and Romulans being more direct expys of the Soviets and Chinese and there being a bit more of a different Anglo-American relationship onboard the Enterprise. 4.) Stand back Superman, Einstein or Spiderman, Batman or Robin too. Don't want to cause a ruckus with B.A. Barracus, but I've got a match for you. She makes them look like a bunch of fairies and indeed, has more bottle than United Dairies.  5.) It isn't a Midwich scenario, but is something strange nonetheless... 6.) No huge reference, simply a case of green London trams becoming as broadly recognisable as red London buses, red post boxes, black London cabs and blue police boxes. Finding a commonplace public object or vehicle that could be yellow is the next step, as I do have a liking for a combination of the primary colours + green. 7.) That he is. He is reaching the point where he has pushed the envelope pretty far, but there are some water speed opportunities still open. 8.) Not really a military dictatorship per se. He does look upon Napoleon and de Gaulle as examples, but doesn't have power as his sole objective. He wants to have a proper election as soon as possible to legitimise his position. 9.) Canada is going very well and this leads to a very different sense of where it seeks to go as a nation. Rather than being caught up with the Quebec/Francophone issue, peacekeeping and shifting away from its old British roots, this is a Canada that has a discernably different identity and is going down a very different path. 10.) The facilities will not be undefended by any stretch. 11.) I based the wording on that of US magazines of the 1940s and 50s and British works from the same period, combined with a touch of pre WW1 style. Where we are used to somewhat less strident terms and general public language, particularly from the 1960s onwards, there was a discernable difference going back even a generation before. The 1960s have seen the US military swell well beyond the levels reached in Korea, which in turn were much larger than @. This has a flow on effect on popular culture. 12.) Two steps forward, one step backwards seems the order of the day in Hong Kong as a flashpoint between the West and China, with the latter increasingly flexing its muscles as a matter of course. 13.) Absolutely. It may be the fate of the world at stake, but rules are rules! 14.) It is part of the secret agreement to help 'persuade' the Germans not to antagonise the Soviets and other European nations with full rearmament, as well as a British effort to ensure that the Germans don't get too friendly with the French and engineer a continental bloc. In this way, the Lapcat intelligence/Sam Johnson's thoughts and opinions end up having an opposite effect than what he would have liked, cementing a belief by certain factions in the British government that promotion of European unity would be a very bad thing. 15.) Yes, they have had a mention on a few occasions, albeit obliquely in some cases. Just one of the many notes of difference to make a reader react in exactly the way that you have. 16.) They are American Indians/Native Americans. Indian termination was basically a policy of assimilation and incorporating Indians into mainstream American society en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_termination_policy17.) It is a historical eruption, but the British are very keen on keeping the eyes of the world away from the area 18.) You are quite correct. It is a bigger and tougher T-72 with the gas turbine engine of the T-80, developed in response to the stronger Western tanks. It represents a Soviet advance closer towards competitive status in armour. 19.) It is a fair bit of romantic courting for public consumption. 20.) Note her different surname and the absence of Hebraization of surnames that occurred in Israel in the @ 1950s. 21.) You hit the nail on the head quite well. There isn't the scope for a NAM and trying for rapprochement with either of China or the USSR would set off the other. India is caught a bit betwixt and between, particularly for those who want her to make the jump to being a Great Power - there isn't really a gap or an area for them to fill.
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5.) It isn't a Midwich scenario, but is something strange nonetheless... - Have to see what develops.
8.) Not really a military dictatorship per se. He does look upon Napoleon and de Gaulle as examples, but doesn't have power as his sole objective. He wants to have a proper election as soon as possible to legitimise his position. - The problem is when you have a military coup to suppress popular feeling coupled with extra-judicial murders it can be difficult to put the military genie back in the bottle.
9.) Canada is going very well and this leads to a very different sense of where it seeks to go as a nation. Rather than being caught up with the Quebec/Francophone issue, peacekeeping and shifting away from its old British roots, this is a Canada that has a discernably different identity and is going down a very different path. - 11.) I based the wording on that of US magazines of the 1940s and 50s and British works from the same period, combined with a touch of pre WW1 style. Where we are used to somewhat less strident terms and general public language, particularly from the 1960s onwards, there was a discernable difference going back even a generation before. The 1960s have seen the US military swell well beyond the levels reached in Korea, which in turn were much larger than @. This has a flow on effect on popular culture. - True its also like the more conservative elements of the 40's and 50's. 13.) Absolutely. It may be the fate of the world at stake, but rules are rules! -
14.) It is part of the secret agreement to help 'persuade' the Germans not to antagonise the Soviets and other European nations with full rearmament, as well as a British effort to ensure that the Germans don't get too friendly with the French and engineer a continental bloc. In this way, the Lapcat intelligence/Sam Johnson's thoughts and opinions end up having an opposite effect than what he would have liked, cementing a belief by certain factions in the British government that promotion of European unity would be a very bad thing. - 16.) They are American Indians/Native Americans. Indian termination was basically a policy of assimilation and incorporating Indians into mainstream American society en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_termination_policy - Given how badly those policies worked OTL around much of the world that its still continuing and supported isn't good.
17.) It is a historical eruption, but the British are very keen on keeping the eyes of the world away from the area - Interesting. 19.) It is a fair bit of romantic courting for public consumption. - My revulsion was on the widespread mass slaughter. I know DE is a far more reactionary world than OTL but such activities show a nasty side to it.
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Post by simon darkshade on Feb 21, 2022 1:39:17 GMT
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5.) It will play out slowly, being one example of a wider phenomenon.
8.) There wasn't really any widespread popular feeling, even when compared to the historical chienlit. If anything, it is 1958, not 1961.
11.) It is used to show a 1960s that is more like the first half of the decade - less of a discernable generation gap and more of an ongoing development.
16.) Not everything is going to go nicely. They are historical policies and, in the absence of the drivers for change that came in @, they will continue to play out. The resultant situation will not be too recognisable compared to @.
19.) It isn't a huge hunt and is very uncontroversial by the standards of the time and not too far off views from the early-mid 1960s in @.
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Post by simon darkshade on Feb 22, 2022 14:15:48 GMT
March
March 1: The MCC Advisory County Cricket Committee announces the formation of a two tiered first class County Cricket competition, consisting of twenty teams in each division and setting out rules for promotion and demotion and the eligibility of players.
March 2: Soviet and Chinese border troops exchange artillery fire across the Ussuri River throughout the day as tensions increase.
March 3: The United States Navy establishes the Fighter Weapons School at NAS Miramar, California.
March 4: A trio of Cricklewood-based benevolent crime-fighting adventurers known as 'The Goodies' confront and defeat a gang of disguised robots intent on destroying their reputation and arrest their mastermind controller, the wicked Dr. Wolfgang Adolphus Ratfink Von Petal.
March 5: Swiss voters narrowly reject a referendum proposal to grant women the vote and the right to stand for election to political office.
March 6: San Francisco Police Captain Harry Callahan disrupts the armed robbery of a liquor store through the creative use of his car, freeing four hostages and shooting the three perpetrators.
March 7: A US Army rotodyne helps rescue 154 people from a burning apartment building in Seoul, Korea, whilst on exercises with the Imperial Korean Army.
March 8: The Social Democrats win a plurality in the German federal election, sparking intense negotiations for the formation of a coalition government.
March 9: Chilean Carabineros fire on a crowd of anti-government protestors in Puerto Montt using new electrical riot guns and tear gas, injuring over 120 and killing 3
March 10: The Royal Canadian Mounted Police begin use of sorcerously augmented dog sleds for Arctic patrol duties, preferring them for reasons of noise and range over motorised sleds.
March 11: Debut of the BBC television adaption of John Christopher’s children’s science fiction series The Tripods.
March 12: US and French officials begin a series of clandestine meetings in Bangkok to discuss coordinated efforts in the Congo under the guise of Indochinese operations.
March 13: A Soviet fishing trawler in the North Pacific sends out a panicked radio message reporting that it is being eaten before disappearing.
March 14: Twenty people are slain by a cloaked shadowy murderer in a single day in Indiana in a series of horrifying attacks. The perpetrator evades police by flying off into the night sky when cornered in downtown Bloomington.
March 15: Southern Colombia is struck by an earthquake registering 7.6 on the Richter scale.
March 16: Home Office environmental sorcerers complete the cleansing of the Thames River, restoring its water quality to designated pre-industrial levels after a fifteen year purification process. Spokeswizards state that the river water will be safe for human consumption within weeks and that a full range of fish and marine animals will return within a year.
March 17: Commissioning of the Royal Australian Navy's new aircraft carrier HMAS Adelaide in Sydney; her sister ship Perth is due to join the fleet in 1971.
March 18: Princess Victoria leaves England to return home to Ruritania, being farewelled from RAF Northolt by Prince Charles as she boards the Royal Flight Concord to Strelsau.
March 19: Fuerza Aeria Royale Colombiana reconnaissance aircraft investigate garbled reports of the uncovering of what appears to be hitherto lost ancient city by the Putamayo Earthquake.
March 20: An aerial convoy of long range transport jets begins the delivery of substantial Soviet reinforcements of manpower and materiel to North Vietnam.
March 21: General Abrams conducts a press conference in Saigon on the progress of Operation Rumble to date, reporting that over 8000 Viet Cong guerillas have been killed and 18 of 26 enemy base areas have been destroyed or overrun
March 22: First operational test firing at of the Royal Navy's new submarine launched medium range strike missile, the de Havilland Blue Moon, fired from HMS Jellicoe at a target range in Kenya from a distance of 1246nm.
March 23: FBI paladins and wizards investigating a series of strange events in a small Colorado town find no evidence of a reported eldritch cult, but discover a number of concerning crop circles and cattle mutilations in surrounding farms.
March 24: The King of Jordan dismisses his Prime Minister and the entire cabinet in a dispute over a new joint defence agreement with Britain and the United States.
March 25: Philippines Army forces launch a major sweep and clear operation in Darlac Province in South Vietnam.
March 26: Mikhail Suslov, the noted CPSU ideologue, is promoted to Second Secretary of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, formally cementing his position on the Central Committee.
March 27: Imperial Japanese Navy destroyers and submarines begin testing of a new supercavitating 'rocket torpedo' in exercises in the Inland Sea.
March 28: Pope Paul VI increases the size of the College of Cardinals from 112 to 150.
March 29: Over 100,000 people attend the opening night of Billy Graham's new Crusade and rally for decency in New York City.
March 30: The British Army introduces new general service body armour adaptable to a full range of operational climes and theatres.
March 31: A Federal Bureau of Prisons report recommends against the closure of Alcatraz Federal Penitentiary despite a number of escapes from the previously 'escape-proof' prison over the previous decade.
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Post by lordroel on Feb 22, 2022 15:07:21 GMT
March 2: Soviet and Chinese border troops exchange artillery fire across the Ussuri River throughout the day as tensions increase. As long as it stays a border war it will be fine, i think. |
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Post by simon darkshade on Feb 22, 2022 15:23:40 GMT
It isn’t at even that level yet, but simmering a bit lower.
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Post by lordroel on Feb 22, 2022 15:24:45 GMT
It isn’t at even that level yet, but simmering a bit lower. But it could escalate. |
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Post by simon darkshade on Feb 22, 2022 15:36:00 GMT
That would ultimately be in the interests of neither state.
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