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Post by stevep on Oct 24, 2021 10:55:35 GMT
Steve, You've hit the nail on the head. This was a creature from the deep ocean that entered the Med/ was lured into it. DE is a bigger place with a reasonable amount of biomass on land and sea. Whaling has been less damaging, partially because of the presence of sea monsters that could prove a little dangerous to ships before, say, the 1920s-1930s. There is a pick up in whaling and oceanic industrial fishing at that point, which sparks off the increased incidence of great white and meg attacks and also leads to the former being apparently wiped out. Also, being a fantastical world, some of the explanations that have been thoroughly debunked in @, such as deep sea relict populations, present themselves as options here. Simon
Now that first bit raises some questions, especially since I don't think you mean by the idea of new food sources.
The last bit makes suggestions that some inhabitants of Atlantis, Mu etc may still be around but not yet recognised.
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Post by simon darkshade on Oct 24, 2021 12:36:03 GMT
On the first issue, you might be right.
On the second, you aren’t.
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Post by simon darkshade on Oct 25, 2021 13:25:08 GMT
March March 1: Five North Vietnamese armed trawlers are sunk by USN destroyer escorts in coordinated actions off the coast of South Vietnam. Elsewhere, the ANZAC Division concludes Operation Coburg, a large scale sweep and clear operation of Phuoc Toy Province and French air strikes destroy a large base area in the Mekong Delta. March 2: Leeds defeat Arsenal 1-0 to win the Football League Cup in front of a crowd of 128,736 at Empire Stadium. March 3: The oil tanker Ocean Eagle sinks, blocking the entrance to San Juan Harbor in Porto Rico, trapping eight USN and RCN vessels. March 4: World release of Franco Zefferelli's Romeo and Juliet in London. March 5: South Vietnamese, American and Laotian troops advance up to the extended Liberty Line in Laos. March 6: The CBS series Lost in Space ends with the return of the Jupiter 2 spaceship to Earth. March 7: US, Soviet, British, French and Chinese negotiators at Geneva reach an agreement in principle on the viability of strategic nuclear limitation. March 8: Soviet Golf class SSB K-129 goes missing without trace northwest of Hawaii. March 9: First public use of the term 'Green Revolution' in a speech by USAID Administrator William March 10: A government decree in North Vietnam outlaws all forms of opposition to its conduct of the war, imposing a range of punishments from imprisonment in a liquidation camp to the death penalty. March 11: Three South Korean and American divisions launch a concentrated search and destroy operation in Binh Dinh Province. March 12: An experimental British flying car successfully escapes an isolated Bulgarian barony, exposing its illegal anti-child policies and leading to a crackdown by the Royal Bulgarian Army. March 13: VX nerve gas is accidentally released from the Dugway Proving Ground in Utah, killing over 10,000 sheep. March 14: A nefarious plan by SPECTRE to attack NORAD's Southern Headquarters in Cuba is foiled by the intervention of a British secret agent. March 15: The Emperor of Brazil is shot and killed by Che Guevara whilst reviewing a military parade in Rio de Janeiro. Guevara escapes by rocket pack amid the resultant chaos. March 16: British Minister of Defence George Brown resigns for reasons of ill health; he had been in poor condition since his recent visit to Peru. March 17: General Abrams flies to Hawaii for a conference with President Kennedy, setting out the next three offensives planned as a follow up to the success of Operation Eagle. March 18: Philippine soldiers execute 28 mutinying Moro conscripts on Corregidor. March 19: The King of Libya declares that he will seek the renegotiation of terms for the American and British basing rights. March 20: General Motors opens its first English plant in Wolverhampton, with newspapers hailing the renaissance of the Black Country. March 21: General William Westmoreland is appointed as CINCUSAREUR and Supreme Allied Commander Europe. March 22: TIME Magazine releases a feature dedicated to the 'Rise and Rise of Middle America'. March 23: Pope Paul VI proclaims the establishment of the Sacred Military Order of the Guardians of the Dawn. March 24: George Best makes his England debut in an international against Ruritania in Strelsau. March 25: North Vietnamese Army forces heading onto the Ho Chi Minh trail through Mu Gia Pass report suffering strange intense attacks of nausea, vomiting, skin blistering and hemorrhaging. March 26: Unveiling of a new Mitsubishi supersonic long range fighter in Tokyo. March 27: Jesuit investigators confirm reports of a 10 year old child with stigmata in Portugal. March 28: Nigeria places a large defence order with Britain to equip its armed forces for the ongoing Biafran Rebellion. March 29: Introduction of the hazelnut spread Nutella into Britain. March 30: Establishment of the Federation of Arab Emirates, a grouping of British protectorates on the Persian Gulf coast of Arabia. March 31: Israeli and Egyptian destroyers collide at sea off the coast of Sinai.
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Post by lordroel on Oct 25, 2021 14:08:03 GMT
MarchMarch 3: The oil tanker Ocean Eagle sinks, blocking the entrance to San Juan Harbor in Porto Rico, trapping eight USN and RCN vessels. Accident or sabotage. March 15: The Emperor of Brazil is shot and killed by Che Guevara whilst reviewing a military parade in Rio de Janeiro. Guevara escapes by rocket pack amid the resultant chaos. So who is the new Brazil emperor going to be and where does Che Guevara think he can hide. March 31: Israeli and Egyptian destroyers collide at sea off the coast of Sinai. Will this escalate ore not.
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Post by stevep on Oct 25, 2021 14:23:42 GMT
MarchMarch 3: The oil tanker Ocean Eagle sinks, blocking the entrance to San Juan Harbor in Porto Rico, trapping eight USN and RCN vessels. - Accident or something planned? March 7: US, Soviet, British, French and Chinese negotiators at Geneva reach an agreement in principle on the viability of strategic nuclear limitation. - Good.
March 8: Soviet Golf class SSB K-129 goes missing without trace northwest of Hawaii. - Worrying. Another fish hunt being needed or something else? Notice its again an OTL event but in DE it could have another cause. March 12: An experimental British flying car successfully escapes an isolated Bulgarian barony, exposing its illegal anti-child policies and leading to a crackdown by the Royal Bulgarian Army. - March 14: A nefarious plan by SPECTRE to attack NORAD's Southern Headquarters in Cuba is foiled by the intervention of a British secret agent. - I wonder who that was. March 15: The Emperor of Brazil is shot and killed by Che Guevara whilst reviewing a military parade in Rio de Janeiro. Guevara escapes by rocket pack amid the resultant chaos. - The question might be how stable is the accession and what longer term impacts this could have in Brazil and the wider region.
March 16: British Minister of Defence George Brown resigns for reasons of ill health; he had been in poor condition since his recent visit to Peru. - IIRC he had a reputation for loving grapes too much - the pressed version that is. March 19: The King of Libya declares that he will seek the renegotiation of terms for the American and British basing rights. - Well we're avoided March 21: General William Westmoreland is appointed as CINCUSAREUR and Supreme Allied Commander Europe. - Given his OTL performance that's not the best of choices. March 24: George Best makes his England debut in an international against Ruritania in Strelsau. - Duh? Apart from the fact he's 21 so that's rather a late start for such a talented player how come he's playing for England rather than Ireland as it would be here?
March 25: North Vietnamese Army forces heading onto the Ho Chi Minh trail through Mu Gia Pass report suffering strange intense attacks of nausea, vomiting, skin blistering and hemorrhaging. - That sounds like a nasty case of some chemical cocktail. March 28: Nigeria places a large defence order with Britain to equip its armed forces for the ongoing Biafran Rebellion. - Damn would have hoped that could be avoided. Preferably its not the savage slaughter of OTL?
Checking a couple of points on wiki for OTL March 68 I hope DE doesn't have the OTL Mỹ Lai massacre. Or has it still occurred but being covered up like OTL?
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Post by simon darkshade on Oct 25, 2021 15:16:11 GMT
Lordroel,
1.) It was purely an accident so, naturally, everyone is presuming it was deliberate. 2.) The new Emperor is rather young; Che escaped through planning and is an international man of mystery and danger. 3.) There isn’t the shared border to allow escalation.
Steve,
1.) Accident as said. 2.) It is nowhere near the @ SALT 1 stage and that would be difficult to wrangle. 3.) There is something far bigger in the Pacific than a meg… 4.) There was much singing involved in the escape. 5.) The fellow got the girl, saved the day and didn’t get his hair mussed. 6.) The succession is not stable and there will be strife… 7.) His resignation and surrounding reason is related to his drinking and the story of his deed in Peru: “ Brown was said to have lumbered over to a tall, elegant vision in red, and requested the honour of the next dance, to be told, ‘I will not dance with you for three reasons. The first is that you are drunk. The second is that the band is not playing a waltz, but the Peruvian national anthem. The final reason is that I am the Cardinal Archbishop of Lima.’ “ I have to make that canon. 8.) It is the first step in trying to flex their muscles and engage in nationalist assertiveness, but the lessons of 1956 and Castellan are still too fresh for anything…courageous… 9.) Westmoreland would be fine as commander of a conventional command, not a guerrilla war. Here, he gets that chance. 10.) Different international FIFA rules whereby a player born in one of the Home Nations and playing at a junior can be qualified for another as a senior, provided the application goes through before 21 and they fulfil residency rules for 6 years. Here, Best scrapes in through some clever paperwork and is enticed over by a very lucrative payment and the chance of playing for the world champions. 11.) It is radiological. 12.) It is a very different rebellion, but Nigeria is a bit too loose a federation to avoid all trouble. The presence of British forces acts as something of a circuit breaker. 13.) The massacre did not occur. There is not only a different troop mix in the province, but far more of them, using a different strategy, without Tet. There is a much stronger use of the Strategic Hamlet Program, combined with other counterinsurgency measures. Vietnam really needs a post of its own, but it will come out in time. The US believes it is on track to a victory by 1970 and, without a Ho Chi Minh Trail, the VC presence in the south is in trouble against a smart and numerous opponent.
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Post by stevep on Oct 25, 2021 20:45:33 GMT
Lordroel, 1.) It was purely an accident so, naturally, everyone is presuming it was deliberate. 2.) The new Emperor is rather young; Che escaped through planning and is an international man of mystery and danger. 3.) There isn’t the shared border to allow escalation. Steve, 1.) Accident as said. 2.) It is nowhere near the @ SALT 1 stage and that would be difficult to wrangle. 3.) There is something far bigger in the Pacific than a meg… 4.) There was much singing involved in the escape. 5.) The fellow got the girl, saved the day and didn’t get his hair mussed. 6.) The succession is not stable and there will be strife… 7.) His resignation and surrounding reason is related to his drinking and the story of his deed in Peru: “ Brown was said to have lumbered over to a tall, elegant vision in red, and requested the honour of the next dance, to be told, ‘I will not dance with you for three reasons. The first is that you are drunk. The second is that the band is not playing a waltz, but the Peruvian national anthem. The final reason is that I am the Cardinal Archbishop of Lima.’ “ I have to make that canon. 8.) It is the first step in trying to flex their muscles and engage in nationalist assertiveness, but the lessons of 1956 and Castellan are still too fresh for anything…courageous… 9.) Westmoreland would be fine as commander of a conventional command, not a guerrilla war. Here, he gets that chance. 10.) Different international FIFA rules whereby a player born in one of the Home Nations and playing at a junior can be qualified for another as a senior, provided the application goes through before 21 and they fulfil residency rules for 6 years. Here, Best scrapes in through some clever paperwork and is enticed over by a very lucrative payment and the chance of playing for the world champions. 11.) It is radiological. 12.) It is a very different rebellion, but Nigeria is a bit too loose a federation to avoid all trouble. The presence of British forces acts as something of a circuit breaker. 13.) The massacre did not occur. There is not only a different troop mix in the province, but far more of them, using a different strategy, without Tet. There is a much stronger use of the Strategic Hamlet Program, combined with other counterinsurgency measures. Vietnam really needs a post of its own, but it will come out in time. The US believes it is on track to a victory by 1970 and, without a Ho Chi Minh Trail, the VC presence in the south is in trouble against a smart and numerous opponent.
3.) There is something far bigger in the Pacific than a meg… - Oh him again. Watch out Tokyo.
7.) His resignation and surrounding reason is related to his drinking and the story of his deed in Peru: “ Brown was said to have lumbered over to a tall, elegant vision in red, and requested the honour of the next dance, to be told, ‘I will not dance with you for three reasons. The first is that you are drunk. The second is that the band is not playing a waltz, but the Peruvian national anthem. The final reason is that I am the Cardinal Archbishop of Lima.’ “ I have to make that canon. - That's what's got the for the post.
10.) Different international FIFA rules whereby a player born in one of the Home Nations and playing at a junior can be qualified for another as a senior, provided the application goes through before 21 and they fulfil residency rules for 6 years. Here, Best scrapes in through some clever paperwork and is enticed over by a very lucrative payment and the chance of playing for the world champions. - Well that will be interesting and could make for some other players jumping ship. Of course whether the English establishment and someone as erratic as George will be a potentially difficult combination even if he avoids his drink problems.
13.) The massacre did not occur. There is not only a different troop mix in the province, but far more of them, using a different strategy, without Tet. There is a much stronger use of the Strategic Hamlet Program, combined with other counterinsurgency measures. Vietnam really needs a post of its own, but it will come out in time. The US believes it is on track to a victory by 1970 and, without a Ho Chi Minh Trail, the VC presence in the south is in trouble against a smart and numerous opponent. - Well at least that's something. Especially since while its the most notorious it seems to have been far from alone in the US military during the conflict. Quite possibly less than the N Vietnamese forces but standards in the western were different on such crimes.
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Post by simon darkshade on Oct 26, 2021 10:36:59 GMT
3.) Godzilla isn't only drawn to Tokyo here, having hit Shanghai and Hawaii.
7.) Ultimately, Brown wasn't an ideal fit for a slightly more straight laced setting.
10.) I utilised an amalgam of some old Test cricket qualification rules and some post 2004 FIFA ones for this circumstance, so it could lead to some other subsequent cases. Sport is an area developing differently, so time will tell.
13.) Something as egregious as My Lai can be butterflied in a very different conflict, but some lower level friction can be expected, which I'll address when I get around to writing Vietnam. There is a tighter level of tactical control over troops in that respect and the US is willing to court martial and execute those who disobey orders in such manners. Like WW2, they will not be perfect, but are being pushed through in a disciplined manner. As said, I need to do a General Discussion post on Vietnam, but one big factor that is different is that the press are controlled very tightly - they are embedded and given access, but their output is subject to censorship as part of an information war. The British utilised a harsh version of this in the 1956 War and, although it raised up all types of issues of freedom and independence, it got results.
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Post by stevep on Oct 26, 2021 10:46:59 GMT
3.) Godzilla isn't only drawn to Tokyo here, having hit Shanghai and Hawaii. 7.) Ultimately, Brown wasn't an ideal fit for a slightly more straight laced setting. 10.) I utilised an amalgam of some old Test cricket qualification rules and some post 2004 FIFA ones for this circumstance, so it could lead to some other subsequent cases. Sport is an area developing differently, so time will tell. 13.) Something as egregious as My Lai can be butterflied in a very different conflict, but some lower level friction can be expected, which I'll address when I get around to writing Vietnam. There is a tighter level of tactical control over troops in that respect and the US is willing to court martial and execute those who disobey orders in such manners. Like WW2, they will not be perfect, but are being pushed through in a disciplined manner. As said, I need to do a General Discussion post on Vietnam, but one big factor that is different is that the press are controlled very tightly - they are embedded and given access, but their output is subject to censorship as part of an information war. The British utilised a harsh version of this in the 1956 War and, although it raised up all types of issues of freedom and independence, it got results.
Well from the wiki article the main leaks about Mỹ La initially came from a helicopter crew who saw what was happening and tried - with some success - to save some of the victims and later from a few of the men in the unit involved - once they were out of the army a year or two later. So possibly something comes up but likely not as bad if there is less racism and contempt for the locals. If we're still have something like the Malayan 'emergency' with Britain developing its hearts and minds policy that could have some impact on the US approach.
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Post by simon darkshade on Oct 26, 2021 11:17:02 GMT
The hearts and minds approach is at the forefront of the overall Vietnam strategy.
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Post by simon darkshade on Oct 28, 2021 17:43:59 GMT
April April 1: London Bridge is sold to an American oil millionaire for $3.5 million. It is to be replaced by a new 1525ft grand bridge to suit the Imperial capital April 2: Release of 2001: A Space Odyssey, Stanley Kubrick’s speculative future history of mankind’s putative first interstellar expedition. April 3: Saab and IKEA unveil the world's first flatpack car; Allen keys are not included. April 4: First launch of the US Nova superheavy rocket at Cape Canaveral, carrying the new NASA Ulysses spaceship on a test flight to Venus. April 5: President Kennedy presents the Medal of Honor to US Army Special Forces Colonel Mike Kirby and Sergeants John Rambo and Michael Ransom for their valor at the Battle of Dak To. April 6: Celebration 50th official birthday of the Royal Air Force with a spectacular air show over London, including a new Hawker-Siddeley Hurricane leading four Hunters through and under Tower Bridge and a much anticipated flight by two supersonic Supermarine Victory bombers and the the prototype Armstrong-Whitworth Solaris nuclear powered aircraft. April 7: Release of The Charge of the Light Brigade, an enthralling historical war epic about the Crimean War and the eponymous victory at the Battle of Balaclava. April 8: French military forces begin the evacuation of Hainan in accordance with their earlier declaration, removing equipment and even some monuments prior to the handover to Imperial China. April 9: NBC broadcasts the first episode of The War in Korea, an adaption of Sir Winston Churchill’s acclaimed three volume history of the conflict, featuring an introduction by the Duke of London himself. April 10: Soviet MiG-23 and Su-21 fighters shoot down 6 USAF F-105 fighter-bombers and 2 B-47s over Northern Laos, leading to the cessation of the use of the latter aircraft outside of secured airspace in the daytime. This is seen as an escalation of the complexity of the air battle over North Vietnam by USAF commanders. April 11:The Fellowship of the Ring wins Best Picture, David Lean wins Best Director and Christopher Lee wins Best Actor at the 40th Academy Awards, three of a total of a record twelve Academy Awards for the smash hit epic. April 12: Delivery of the first operational Royal Ordnance FV525 Warrior Mechanised Armoured Combat Vehicles to the British Army of the Rhine in a ceremony attended by new BAOR and NORTHAG Commander-in-Chief Field Marshal Sir John Hackett and his predecessor, the new Chief of the Imperial General Staff, Field Marshal Sir Richard Sharpe. The latter describes the 36 ton armoured fighting carrier as "a (very) good vehicle and the best in the d_____ world right now", with its heavy armour and the long range firepower of the 50mm automatic cannon being considerable advances over the FV432 Saxon. April 13: The Soviet Central Committee orders the Kurchatov Institute of Atomic Energy to make certain unspecificed modifications to the design of the RBMK nuclear reactor. April 14: British Prime Minster Stanley Barton is returned to power resoundingly in the British General Election, with Labour winning 379 seats and forming a majority government in their own right for the first time. Conservative Opposition Leader John Profumo indicates that he will step down in the aftermath of the defeat in a late night speech, paving the way for an intriguing leadership contest between Enoch Powell, Sir Randolph Churchill, Lord Wooster and Peter Thorneycroft. April 15: Congress passes the National Trails Systems Act, specifying twelve notable trails for special preservation and exploration across America. April 16: The US XXV Corps launches Operation Turpentine, the next rolling offensive in South Vietnam and Laos, aimed at destroying North Vietnamese base areas along the Ho Chi Minh Trail and clearing the area up to the Liberty Line. It begins with a large scale diversionary air and naval attack on the coast of North Vietnam immediately above the DMZ, followed by an artillery bombardment beginning at twilight. American troops are heavily supported by combat helicopters, including the AH-56 Cheyenne making its debut, and employ new darkvision sights to great effect in the initial advances. April 17: The Malayan Government declares a state of emergency in response to the reemergency of the communist terrorist threat to internal security and issues a request to Britain for further direct military support. GOC Malaya Command General Sir John Howard orders the deployment of troops of the Far Eastern Strategic Reserve from Singapore in an immediate response. April 18: Foreign diplomats in Peking report a series of disturbing rumours of troubles in the Imperial Court in the Forbidden City. Troop presence in the Chinese capital is seen to notably increase. April 19: Colonel Jean-Bedel Bokassa stages a coup in Ubangi-Shari with the aid of a surprising number of well armed and equipped troops. April 20: In a series of attacks to mark Hitler's birthday, ODESSA and Neo-Nazi terrorists attack eighteen banks and government buildings across Europe, killing 139 and injuring over 600 people, sparking international outrage. April 21: The French Armee d'Orient launch Operation Ouragan, a major offensive against remaining Viet Cong base areas in the Mekong Delta, heavily supported by French, South Vietnamese and USN riverine forces. April 22: General Hassan, a close ally of the young King and a staunch nationalist, is appointed Prime Minister of Egypt. April 23: Commencement of the Deep Sea Drilling Project off the coast of New York. April 24: Collapse of the French government over the Hainan affair, with new elections called for May. April 25: Surrey Police arrest 30 year old Brian Lunn Field for the rape and murder of a 14 year old schoolboy. April 26: The United States conducts a 2 megaton underground nuclear test in Nevada as part of Operation Crosstie. April 27: Seven suspected Securitate spies are arrested in a Stuttgart biergarten by German counterintelligence agents. April 28: Detectives of Scotland Yard's Flying Squad foil a gold bullion robbery in West London, with Detective Inspector Jack Regan awarded the George Cross for outstanding gallantry after pursuing the villains across streets and rooftops in his police Jaguar and rescuing five civilian hostages. April 29: Cassius Clay defeats the Soviet champion Vladimir Zheleznyy at Madison Square Gardens and being hailed as a national hero for his victory in the Cold War clash, making an irresistible case for a return bout against Henry Cooper after their hugely controversial 1967 fight. April 30: Soviet and VPAF fighter airfields in North Vietnam are hit with over 200 Condor missiles launched by low level USAF F-111s in a surprise night strike prior to a heavy coordinated B-52 attack on North Vietnamese air defences.
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Post by stevep on Oct 29, 2021 9:52:51 GMT
AprilApril 1: London Bridge is sold to an American oil millionaire for $3.5 million. It is to be replaced by a new 1525ft grand bridge to suit the Imperial capital April 2: Release of 2001: A Space Odyssey, Stanley Kubrick’s speculative future history of mankind’s putative first interstellar expedition. April 3: Saab and IKEA unveil the world's first flatpack car; Allen keys are not included. April 4: First launch of the US Nova superheavy rocket at Cape Canaveral, carrying the new NASA Ulysses spaceship on a test flight to Venus. April 5: President Kennedy presents the Medal of Honor to US Army Special Forces Colonel Mike Kirby and Sergeants John Rambo and Michael Ransom for their valor at the Battle of Dak To. April 6: Celebration 50th official birthday of the Royal Air Force with a spectacular air show over London, including a new Hawker-Siddeley Hurricane leading four Hunters through and under Tower Bridge and a much anticipated flight by two supersonic Supermarine Victory bombers and the the prototype Armstrong-Whitworth Solaris nuclear powered aircraft. April 7: Release of The Charge of the Light Brigade, an enthralling historical war epic about the Crimean War and the eponymous victory at the Battle of Balaclava. April 8: French military forces begin the evacuation of Hainan in accordance with their earlier declaration, removing equipment and even some monuments prior to the handover to Imperial China. April 9: NBC broadcasts the first episode of The War in Korea, an adaption of Sir Winston Churchill’s acclaimed three volume history of the conflict, featuring an introduction by the Duke of London himself. April 10: Soviet MiG-23 and Su-21 fighters shoot down 6 USAF F-105 fighter-bombers and 2 B-47s over Northern Laos, leading to the cessation of the use of the latter aircraft outside of secured airspace in the daytime. This is seen as an escalation of the complexity of the air battle over North Vietnam by USAF commanders. April 11: The Fellowship of the Ring wins Best Picture, David Lean wins Best Director and Christopher Lee wins Best Actor at the 40th Academy Awards, three of a total of a record twelve Academy Awards for the smash hit epic. April 12: Delivery of the first operational Royal Ordnance FV525 Warrior Mechanised Armoured Combat Vehicles to the British Army of the Rhine in a ceremony attended by new BAOR and NORTHAG Commander-in-Chief Field Marshal Sir John Hackett and his predecessor, the new Chief of the Imperial General Staff, Field Marshal Sir Richard Sharpe. The latter describes the 36 ton armoured fighting carrier as "a (very) good vehicle and the best in the d_____ world right now", with its heavy armour and the long range firepower of the 50mm automatic cannon being considerable advances over the FV432 Saxon. April 13: The Soviet Central Committee orders the Kurchatov Institute of Atomic Energy to make certain unspecificed modifications to the design of the RBMK nuclear reactor. April 14: British Prime Minster Stanley Barton is returned to power resoundingly in the British General Election, with Labour winning 379 seats and forming a majority government in their own right for the first time. Conservative Opposition Leader John Profumo indicates that he will step down in the aftermath of the defeat in a late night speech, paving the way for an intriguing leadership contest between Enoch Powell, Sir Randolph Churchill, Lord Wooster and Peter Thorneycroft. April 15: Congress passes the National Trails Systems Act, specifying twelve notable trails for special preservation and exploration across America. April 16: The US XXV Corps launches Operation Turpentine, the next rolling offensive in South Vietnam and Laos, aimed at destroying North Vietnamese base areas along the Ho Chi Minh Trail and clearing the area up to the Liberty Line. It begins with a large scale diversionary air and naval attack on the coast of North Vietnam immediately above the DMZ, followed by an artillery bombardment beginning at twilight. American troops are heavily supported by combat helicopters, including the AH-56 Cheyenne making its debut, and employ new darkvision sights to great effect in the initial advances. April 17: The Malayan Government declares a state of emergency in response to the reemergency of the communist terrorist threat to internal security and issues a request to Britain for further direct military support. GOC Malaya Command General Sir John Howard orders the deployment of troops of the Far Eastern Strategic Reserve from Singapore in an immediate response. April 18: Foreign diplomats in Peking report a series of disturbing rumours of troubles in the Imperial Court in the Forbidden City. Troop presence in the Chinese capital is seen to notably increase. April 19: Colonel Jean-Bedel Bokassa stages a coup in Ubangi-Shari with the aid of a surprising number of well armed and equipped troops. April 20: In a series of attacks to mark Hitler's birthday, ODESSA and Neo-Nazi terrorists attack eighteen banks and government buildings across Europe, killing 139 and injuring over 600 people, sparking international outrage. April 21: The French Armee d'Orient launch Operation Ouragan, a major offensive against remaining Viet Cong base areas in the Mekong Delta, heavily supported by French, South Vietnamese and USN riverine forces. April 22: General Hassan, a close ally of the young King and a staunch nationalist, is appointed Prime Minister of Egypt. April 23: Commencement of the Deep Sea Drilling Project off the coast of New York. April 24: Collapse of the French government over the Hainan affair, with new elections called for May. April 25: Surrey Police arrest 30 year old Brian Lunn Field for the rape and murder of a 14 year old schoolboy. April 26: The United States conducts a 2 megaton underground nuclear test in Nevada as part of Operation Crosstie. April 27: Seven suspected Securitate spies are arrested in a Stuttgart biergarten by German counterintelligence agents. April 28: Detectives of Scotland Yard's Flying Squad foil a gold bullion robbery in West London, with Detective Inspector Jack Regan awarded the George Cross for outstanding gallantry after pursuing the villains across streets and rooftops in his police Jaguar and rescuing five civilian hostages. April 29: Cassius Clay defeats the Soviet champion Vladimir Zheleznyy at Madison Square Gardens and being hailed as a national hero for his victory in the Cold War clash, making an irresistible case for a return bout against Henry Cooper after their hugely controversial 1967 fight. April 30: Soviet and VPAF fighter airfields in North Vietnam are hit with over 200 Condor missiles launched by low level USAF F-111s in a surprise night strike prior to a heavy coordinated B-52 attack on North Vietnamese air defences.
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April 2: Release of 2001: A Space Odyssey, Stanley Kubrick’s speculative future history of mankind’s putative first interstellar expedition. - I'm guessing its less surreal than OTL's film?
April 3: Saab and IKEA unveil the world's first flatpack car; Allen keys are not included. - You mean you have to use a sledgehammer, or do the allen keys have to be purchased seperately? I'm not sure how things like the engines would do in a flat-pack let alone relying on an untrained person to put one together safely.
April 6: Celebration 50th official birthday of the Royal Air Force with a spectacular air show over London, including a new Hawker-Siddeley Hurricane leading four Hunters through and under Tower Bridge and a much anticipated flight by two supersonic Supermarine Victory bombers and the the prototype Armstrong-Whitworth Solaris nuclear powered aircraft. - I still have serious doubts about this last bit.
April 7: Release of The Charge of the Light Brigade, an enthralling historical war epic about the Crimean War and the eponymous victory at the Battle of Balaclava. - Assuming its different from OTL where the British won a victory despite the disaster that was that charge?
April 11:The Fellowship of the Ring wins Best Picture, David Lean wins Best Director and Christopher Lee wins Best Actor at the 40th Academy Awards, three of a total of a record twelve Academy Awards for the smash hit epic. - Yes! And at least two more films to come hopefully.
April 13: The Soviet Central Committee orders the Kurchatov Institute of Atomic Energy to make certain unspecificed modifications to the design of the RBMK nuclear reactor. - Now was that to improve safety or to neglect it in favour of 'performance'?
April 14: British Prime Minster Stanley Barton is returned to power resoundingly in the British General Election, with Labour winning 379 seats and forming a majority government in their own right for the first time. Conservative Opposition Leader John Profumo indicates that he will step down in the aftermath of the defeat in a late night speech, paving the way for an intriguing leadership contest between Enoch Powell, Sir Randolph Churchill, Lord Wooster and Peter Thorneycroft. - Good for Stan. I think I would prefer Thorneycroft of those 4. April 18: Foreign diplomats in Peking report a series of disturbing rumours of troubles in the Imperial Court in the Forbidden City. Troop presence in the Chinese capital is seen to notably increase. - Is this some equivalent of the emperor doing a 'cultural revolution'?
April 19: Colonel Jean-Bedel Bokassa stages a coup in Ubangi-Shari with the aid of a surprising number of well armed and equipped troops. - That sounds distinctly suspicious.
April 20: In a series of attacks to mark Hitler's birthday, ODESSA and Neo-Nazi terrorists attack eighteen banks and government buildings across Europe, killing 139 and injuring over 600 people, sparking international outrage. - Ugh! April 21: The French Armee d'Orient launch Operation Ouragan, a major offensive against remaining Viet Cong base areas in the Mekong Delta, heavily supported by French, South Vietnamese and USN riverine forces. - So there are land attacks deep into N Vietnam? That's not going down well in the north or its backers.
April 28: Detectives of Scotland Yard's Flying Squad foil a gold bullion robbery in West London, with Detective Inspector Jack Regan awarded the George Cross for outstanding gallantry after pursuing the villains across streets and rooftops in his police Jaguar and rescuing five civilian hostages. - I hope this isn't two literal else I can see a lot of claims of damages for damaged rooftops chimneys and the like. Not to mention damage to his car. Or is it one of the flying versions?
April 29: Cassius Clay defeats the Soviet champion Vladimir Zheleznyy at Madison Square Gardens and being hailed as a national hero for his victory in the Cold War clash, making an irresistible case for a return bout against Henry Cooper after their hugely controversial 1967 fight. - Well that could be interesting although 'Our Henry' could have his OTL problem of being rather easily cut able.
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Post by simon darkshade on Oct 29, 2021 12:21:02 GMT
Steve, 1.) It is a different film in some respects, but has a very 'open' ending. Definitely less surreal, though. 2.) Allen keys have to be purchased separately, typical of IKEA. Something like a 1960s version of this www.carsguide.com.au/car-news/flatpack-car-you-diy-build-in-an-hour-234723.) Nuclear Powered Aircraft have been more successful here because of the issues of increased range; by more successful, I mean they've had more money thrown at them. It currently seems as if it will result in a very expensive aircraft that has inherent limitations and dangers to its roles, but can do some things well. Already, there are nuclear powered airships for oceanic patrol. 4.) As well as winning the battle, the charge went where it was supposed to go and had more of a positive impact, albeit at the price of quite a few casualties. Less "mad waste" and more "C'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas la guerre" on the grounds of cavalry charges already hitting up against advancing technology. Culturally, it is seen as the end of the old Napoleonic army and the beginning of the more modern technological one, keeping in mind that the Crimean War extends for a few more years and is followed by an armed peace/Cold War with Russia. 5.) Were I able to translate the ideas and images from my head into some form of trailer, I'd do it. As it stands, making the film during the absolute pomp of the traditional epic AND having illusionary capacities akin to some modern day CGI gives a window for an excellent version. 6.) Improve it. The The information derived from Lapcat ended up be transferred by the British via one of their higher placed Soviet assets in a very secretive fashion. Why? To prevent the chance of something like Chernobyl occurring in a much, much worse manner, with the associated potential for much wider effects; whilst preventing the enemy from making a mistake may be counterintuitive in most cases, it was viewed by PM Barton as a case of risk management for the wider world. 7.) There are many consequences to the win and a Labour majority, particularly after 3.5 years of Barton largely being able to achieve what he is trying to do without being struck by disaster, war or economic downturn. When we look at what happened historically to the British economy and its performance in this era, it sets things up for a very different experience of the 1970s. As for the Conservative leadership contest, Thorneycroft has the least votes as of the first round. 8.) More of a case of other members of the Imperial Family trying to move up the pecking order and getting firmly smacked. 9.) Deliberately so. Remember what I've mentioned regarding an African faction/player and some of their leadership? 10.) They are proving pesky, but whenever one raises one's head too far, it exposes it to fire. 11.) The Mekong Delta is right at the bottom of South Vietnam: commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Republic_of_Vietnam_Military_Territorial_Organization.pngEssentially, the French are in IV Corps Tactical Zone, the Commonwealth Corps in III CTZ, the US Marines in the north of I CTZ and the US Army in Saigon and II CTZ. The Europeans are mainly deployed around III CTZ, the Koreans around the southern provinces of I CTZ and the next major force (Japan) will go into II CTZ. 12.) There was a fair bit of roof damage and to his pride and joy car, but it made for spectacular viewing. For spectators, of course. 13.) Cooper was fairly lucky last time against Clay, who is not missing out on any part of his career due to Vietnam. He already did his time in the US Army at a younger age and there is no radicalization by the Nation of Islam.
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Post by stevep on Oct 30, 2021 13:44:10 GMT
Steve, 1.) It is a different film in some respects, but has a very 'open' ending. Definitely less surreal, though. 2.) Allen keys have to be purchased separately, typical of IKEA. Something like a 1960s version of this www.carsguide.com.au/car-news/flatpack-car-you-diy-build-in-an-hour-234723.) Nuclear Powered Aircraft have been more successful here because of the issues of increased range; by more successful, I mean they've had more money thrown at them. It currently seems as if it will result in a very expensive aircraft that has inherent limitations and dangers to its roles, but can do some things well. Already, there are nuclear powered airships for oceanic patrol. 4.) As well as winning the battle, the charge went where it was supposed to go and had more of a positive impact, albeit at the price of quite a few casualties. Less "mad waste" and more "C'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas la guerre" on the grounds of cavalry charges already hitting up against advancing technology. Culturally, it is seen as the end of the old Napoleonic army and the beginning of the more modern technological one, keeping in mind that the Crimean War extends for a few more years and is followed by an armed peace/Cold War with Russia. 5.) Were I able to translate the ideas and images from my head into some form of trailer, I'd do it. As it stands, making the film during the absolute pomp of the traditional epic AND having illusionary capacities akin to some modern day CGI gives a window for an excellent version. 6.) Improve it. The The information derived from Lapcat ended up be transferred by the British via one of their higher placed Soviet assets in a very secretive fashion. Why? To prevent the chance of something like Chernobyl occurring in a much, much worse manner, with the associated potential for much wider effects; whilst preventing the enemy from making a mistake may be counterintuitive in most cases, it was viewed by PM Barton as a case of risk management for the wider world. 7.) There are many consequences to the win and a Labour majority, particularly after 3.5 years of Barton largely being able to achieve what he is trying to do without being struck by disaster, war or economic downturn. When we look at what happened historically to the British economy and its performance in this era, it sets things up for a very different experience of the 1970s. As for the Conservative leadership contest, Thorneycroft has the least votes as of the first round. 8.) More of a case of other members of the Imperial Family trying to move up the pecking order and getting firmly smacked. 9.) Deliberately so. Remember what I've mentioned regarding an African faction/player and some of their leadership? 10.) They are proving pesky, but whenever one raises one's head too far, it exposes it to fire. 11.) The Mekong Delta is right at the bottom of South Vietnam: commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Republic_of_Vietnam_Military_Territorial_Organization.pngEssentially, the French are in IV Corps Tactical Zone, the Commonwealth Corps in III CTZ, the US Marines in the north of I CTZ and the US Army in Saigon and II CTZ. The Europeans are mainly deployed around III CTZ, the Koreans around the southern provinces of I CTZ and the next major force (Japan) will go into II CTZ. 12.) There was a fair bit of roof damage and to his pride and joy car, but it made for spectacular viewing. For spectators, of course. 13.) Cooper was fairly lucky last time against Clay, who is not missing out on any part of his career due to Vietnam. He already did his time in the US Army at a younger age and there is no radicalization by the Nation of Islam.
1.) It is a different film in some respects, but has a very 'open' ending. Definitely less surreal, though. - 4.) As well as winning the battle, the charge went where it was supposed to go and had more of a positive impact, albeit at the price of quite a few casualties. Less "mad waste" and more "C'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas la guerre" on the grounds of cavalry charges already hitting up against advancing technology. Culturally, it is seen as the end of the old Napoleonic army and the beginning of the more modern technological one, keeping in mind that the Crimean War extends for a few more years and is followed by an armed peace/Cold War with Russia. - Ah didn't realise it was longer than OTL. Does that mean it was less successful as the Russians were really on the ropes when it concluded here.
5.) Were I able to translate the ideas and images from my head into some form of trailer, I'd do it. As it stands, making the film during the absolute pomp of the traditional epic AND having illusionary capacities akin to some modern day CGI gives a window for an excellent version. - No need. Just develop a trans-dimensional machine and we can go and watch it ourselves. That would be magnificent.
6.) Improve it. The The information derived from Lapcat ended up be transferred by the British via one of their higher placed Soviet assets in a very secretive fashion. Why? To prevent the chance of something like Chernobyl occurring in a much, much worse manner, with the associated potential for much wider effects; whilst preventing the enemy from making a mistake may be counterintuitive in most cases, it was viewed by PM Barton as a case of risk management for the wider world. - Good for him and for everybody although a bit surprising given the greater size of DE, which would make it less likely to spread beyond the Soviet borders and the greater bloodiness of the DE universe.
7.) There are many consequences to the win and a Labour majority, particularly after 3.5 years of Barton largely being able to achieve what he is trying to do without being struck by disaster, war or economic downturn. When we look at what happened historically to the British economy and its performance in this era, it sets things up for a very different experience of the 1970s. As for the Conservative leadership contest, Thorneycroft has the least votes as of the first round. - Its going to be interesting and better than OTL definitely.
10.) They are proving pesky, but whenever one raises one's head too far, it exposes it to fire. - Hopefully successfully in turns of burning out the right rats nets.
11.) The Mekong Delta is right at the bottom of South Vietnam: commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Republic_of_Vietnam_Military_Territorial_Organization.pngEssentially, the French are in IV Corps Tactical Zone, the Commonwealth Corps in III CTZ, the US Marines in the north of I CTZ and the US Army in Saigon and II CTZ. The Europeans are mainly deployed around III CTZ, the Koreans around the southern provinces of I CTZ and the next major force (Japan) will go into II CTZ. - Duh! How the hell did I mix up the Mekong and Red Rivers??
12.) There was a fair bit of roof damage and to his pride and joy car, but it made for spectacular viewing. For spectators, of course. - Ouch!
13.) Cooper was fairly lucky last time against Clay, who is not missing out on any part of his career due to Vietnam. He already did his time in the US Army at a younger age and there is no radicalization by the Nation of Islam. - Well that could be bad for Henry but at least he's been more successful than OTL.
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Post by simon darkshade on Oct 31, 2021 15:00:26 GMT
Steve,
1.) It will have some different elements to it, considering Discovery is described as an interstellar ship. 4.) It will last roughly 12 months longer, which will allow for some of the expansion operations/next phase offensives to occur; start 6 months early and finish 6 months late. 5.) That would be quite awesome. 6.) Sam’s base knowledge wasn’t entirely impartial, so they feared the popular idea of what happened at Chernobyl, not the reality. 7.) There is almost enough for a discussion post in its own right, but the course of the nation will be increasingly more divergent and hopefully interesting. No 1970s nadir means that the Thatcherite reaction won’t occur in the same way; indeed, Barton is pushing expansion of industries, not mergers and managed decline. 10.) Watch and see. 11.) Simple enough error. There won’t be ground action in the Red River Delta. 12.) Regan has decent insurance, supplied by Arthur Daley Insurance. 13.) Cooper has a decent career with a fair bit still to go, but Clay is a very good boxer.
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