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Post by stevep on Apr 29, 2021 13:28:40 GMT
I’ll just finish off the last two months before replying to the recent comments. I absolutely love the discussion and opportunity to expand on bits and pieces of the world that it brings, so am very happy for the opportunity. November 1.) You could say that this young constable is the veritable heartbeat of his village. 2.) South America seems to be the last home of the duel, along with other traditions. 3.) The Emperor talks a very big game, partially because being next door to the USA constrains Mexico’s opportunities and freedom of action. 4.) It is a monumental film and met with acclaim on release. There is so much to say on it that I’ll take it to the General Discussion thread, but I’ll just note it is the longest major Western motion picture at 254 minutes. 5.) Fletcher’s sojourn at HM Prison Slade is an interesting one. 6.) Absolutely. The excavations stirred up a lot of sleeping dragons. Why they were sleeping there is a different tale. 7.) Definitely in the case of West. Serial killing isn’t really a growth industry here. 8.) Historically, the idea was shelved, but here sees completion. It includes a rapid transit line as well as car lanes. 9.) Fusion is going to have a big impact on economics, technology and geopolitics. 10.) It is a further escalation as they are joining the Soviets, who already have sent forces into North Vietnam, along with some of their other proxies. 11.) “I’m here to fight for peace, equality and the glorious Soviet future.”
1) That's what I thought although whether Greengrass was ever an help rather than an hindrance I don't know. 4) 4+ hours is a hell of a sit down! Mind you its probably going to miss out even more of the film than Jackson did. You really need a TV or radio series. 6) Well the most optimistic answer to the 2nd bit is that possibly the Spanish missed a hell of a lot of Inca gold and we're disturbed its current 'owners'. 8) Although his Mrs is still out there and she seems by some sources to have been at least as depraved as him. 9) Very true, especially if its able to take off and fairly rapidly replace most other energy sources - the most difficult exception probably being transport needs. Although if it becomes cheap enough then battery or hydrogen powered transport could become practical fairly quickly. Very likely still taking about decades through. 11)
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Post by stevep on Apr 29, 2021 13:42:34 GMT
December 1.) There will be some more rapid developments on this front. 2.) It could be, given Who is working in London. 3.) Flashman was scrabbling out of the way whilst screaming and crying and managed to dislodge the moai onto the laughing dragon below. 4.) The swans are historical. 5.) Plowshare is gathering pace and some big projects are coming. 6.) Oh, it is. There was a historical black water outbreak a few years earlier that was almost mistaken for a bio attack. This could be the real thing. 7.) It is something very big and very fast, with its exit leaving man no closer to kraken open its secrets. 8.) The DNA synthesis is historical. 9.) Yes, we will hear more of the young French general. 10.) The Wet Bandits picked the wrong house! 11.) Both the USA and USSR actually do listen. 12.) The US and Soviet ships launched from Luna orbit, whereas Dreadnought made a run from the asteroid belt. It is a clever means to have Britain appear to be keeping up with the Big Two. Orion 4 is a big spaceship, carrying four shuttle sized landers, a crew of 100 and a lot of equipment, in addition to some armament just in case. Kosmos is similar, although there is a distinctly different appearance. Dreadnought is a mile long. 2) Well I couldn't remember the name but was actually thinking of the 50's US film "Invasion of the Body Snatchers". However plenty of chances for some enemy of the Doctor to be up to something nasty. 3) Well that sounds more like the Flashman I know and loath. 4) Bloody hell they can fly that high!! 5) Hopefully they consider the possible impacts. Something like a ground level Panama Canal, which I think was one of the ideas, could have very dramatic impacts even without the sheer amount of radioactive fall-out that will result. 6) Ugh! Even the suspicion that its a bio attack could escalate things very badly. 7) Ugh! There are puns and there are puns. 8) Ah I was getting confused with the human genome project in the 90's. 11) Then I suspect what their finding around Jupiter is really, really frightening them. 12) Well to reference another link on this site - see Imperial Star Destroyer, video on them - we have an Imperial warship! That is a hell of a size but probably the sort of thing that will have the endurance to stay out there longer. Going from the belt, as long as the base is in a suitable position makes a lot more sense in some ways. Assuming Dreadnought is a lot bigger than the other two I wonder how much of a surprise it will be to them.
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Post by simon darkshade on Apr 29, 2021 16:20:34 GMT
Steve, 6.) That is the one I'm leaning towards, but you do raise a fair point regarding reputations and resonance. However, there aren't a lot of other suitable "S" names available, which is the nomenclature for Supermarine fighters. Since the Second World War, there has been the Sunburst (Type 545), Swift (fully supersonic version of the Sunburst), Scimitar (navalised strike fighter version of Swift) and the Sunstar (Type 560 Mach 2+ air superiority fighter). Sapphire is the name of an engine and Sabre is out, on account of the American jet still used in a large part of the world; too much potential for mistakes. That leaves Scorpion (a bit too negative in imagery), Spartan, Starling (a bit small) and Swan (a bit underwhelming and pacific), apart from the resonant historical name. 9.) Even with a non-Brezhevian USSR, there are still lines that the Kremlin will not see crossed. 10.) Whilst the most well-known milk withdrawal was in 1971 under the Conservatives, I'm not sure it is entirely fair, admittedly from an external perspective. Ted Short withdrew secondary milk in 1968, which is 11+ and Shirley Williams removed it from 5-7 in 1977; additionally, the 1971 withdrawal of funding came from the Treasury, not from the @ Department of Education and Science. The 'milk snatcher' jibe is pretty one sided and silly in my view. Historically, there was a demand from Treasury for savings of 9 million pounds and the cost of the school milk programme for 7-11 was 14 million (incidentally double what was being spent on text books). I can see the base financial logic of it, but it does seem to be a bit of penny pinching for its own sake from Number 11. In Dark Earth, as said, there is more than enough money to fund what is not a significant expenditure - 5% of GDP as a flat rate gets a very, very useful budget over three times more than @ in per capita spending. From it, I would estimate the following could be afforded - Modern school buildings and infrastructure - Up to date text books and equipment - Growing use of technology such as television in learning, rather ahead of @ - Better paid teachers and more of them, leading to... - Reduced class sizes (this is probably one of the key areas where educational outcomes can be improved) - School milk and meals very well supplied - Free university education - A decent amount on R&D 14.) Raving lunatic wizards don't get too far; the Art is just too dangerous for a full irrational person to control. Unfortunately, it is a villain with a dark purpose. 15.) The current thinking is for an evolution of the Orion drive, employing fusion power, with the addition of a photon sail and subsidiary ion engines. The low end aim for velocity is 0.6c, but sights are set higher. In a world where there is some capacity for interdimensional travel, there is a bit more inherent ambition, but FTL is a fair way off into the future. The aim is to build a ship that can take a self supporting crew who can breed along the way or when they get to somewhere.
6) Well possibly Sword, Superb, Supreme, Sureshot, Shrew - which I think was an initial idea for the original Spitfire [although some of those names are more associated with the RN. Got to be a few more so will have to try and think of a few. Did Supermarine always stick with 'S' names?
9) True. Hopefully here things will be maintained better. As you say its possibly the single most important measure to keep Britain competitive with other nations, especially those with far more people and resources.
14) Well the nasty thing with raving lunatic wizards is that when they lose control what they lose control to can be very dangerous. However as you say a villain with a dark purpose is likely to be worse.
15) 0.6c is I think pretty high for a large ship but as you say it would still need to be multi-generational. The other question is do they have a set target? If their just sending a big colony ship out on the hope it will find something, especially with frequent accelerations and decelerations could be a long, long time which is risky for all aboard. If they can tell whether or not a system has a suitable new home while in mid flight they can avoid having to slow down but that could make picking a new target difficult unless its further in the same direction.
Steve, 6.) Shrew would seem a bit underwhelming, Superb and Supreme a little on the pompous side, Sureshot a bit a new name without significant history and Sword a tad too close to Scimitar. Having said that, I will think on it. The name needs to lend itself to easy pluralisation and not be easily converted to something mocking. If it can put the fear of God up Her Majesty's enemies, then all the better. Supermarine used S names for fighters in @ to the best of my knowledge. 9.) Things will be maintained better and funding invested in the current good times to protect the future. That last point is one of the continual goals of the Barton Government - making the most of success today to protect tomorrow. Education is the key to exploiting British advantages to the fullest. 14.) Your point is well made, but, as said, this individual is a bit more dangerous. 15.) The Starship Project is, frankly, a case of trying to start the project too early. However, in the light of the combination of the Cold War and ever mounting American self confidence, this is being set aside. The initial target is Alpha Centauri, but it is being overbuilt so that it can go further and be adapted to fit new drive systems as they are developed. Their first mission is exploration, as colonisation will follow with subsequent trips and ships. Beyond Alpha Centauri, the nearest star systems of interest include: Barnard's Star - Red Dwarf Ross 248 - Red Dwarf Groombridge 34 - Red Dwarf Sirius Luyten 726-8 - Red Dwarf Astraeus Epsilon Eridani Sigma Leonis Tau Ceti Procyon Epsilon Indi Omicron2 Eridani Vega Eta Cassiopeiae
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Post by simon darkshade on Apr 29, 2021 18:48:30 GMT
October 1.) The Japanese are well behind the eightball here and may not get the oil shock triggered shift of car size patterns advantage in markets preferring larger cars. For Britain itself, they are only just getting access at all and still face tariff and non-tariff barriers as well as restrictions on the number of cars that they can import per year. Their historic strategy may not work. 2.) This was historical, apart from the steers having their freedom purchased. 3.) No damage was inflicted on the town. 4.) Here, sky pirates make the jump from the pages of The Eagle Annual to the high seas. Rotters! 5.) It was very close indeed. It may have an impact on some styles and relationships. 6.) It is very intriguing and something to do with armour. 7.) This is a very big game changer for a host of reasons. 8.) The nature of the enchantments make it stable and there is something of a change to an already somewhat different Falklands. 9.) QE2 is bigger and begins her life as a bonafide superliner; like SS United States, SS America and RMS Great Britain, it can carry a reinforced division or up to 25,000 men at a time. 10.) Their voyages of discovery will be very interesting; it is useful to note that Dreadnought is a fully fledged space battleship, rather than an armed exploration vessel like Orion or Kosmos. 11.) I actually went to the effort of doing some research on Native American languages of the Northwest to get the Sasquatch’s name, so it is nice that it got a reaction. 12.) It is no coincidence. 13.) He has a rough time on capture, but may not be a POW for quite as long. 14.) You might very well think that; I could not possibly comment. 15.) It is likely that they will see use, at some point. 3) Good. 5) Well that could be interesting for the people involved. 7) Definitely could save a lot of people. Although it might also prompt some bad habits, such as smoking, to last longer. A lot of both famous and talented people could have different fates. 8) OTL the islands are pretty much treeless as I understand it so its going to open up some new ecological niches at least. 10) Now that could be important if something nasty happens around Jupiter. 12) Well there is the old issue that a new common threat - or potential one - can make ancient enemies new allies out of necessity at times. Albeit how deep that alliance is could be an issue. 13) Good on that last bit. 14) Well I will wait and see what turns out. However the Goa'uld are not exactly good neighbours and if there are Stargates we will potentially quickly have a lot of neighbours. Mind you it depends on who gets hold of the Stargate, probably the US and how much they do or don't share with other powers. 15) Not good, at least if their used against other humans. Against hostile aliens that's a different issue.
3.) The UFO event was a historical one, so didn’t do much damage. 5.) Specifically, it will make Taylor and her husband Richard Burton (a wartime Mosquito fighter pilot in the RAF) grow closer and the latter wean himself from the bottle, play some great roles and receive recognition. 7.) Most certainly. Smoking rates are already falling faster than in @, so I can’t see a resurgence happening. As you say, some famous individuals and careers will last longer. 8.) Yes, they are quite treeless in @, so this will change animal life, the local ecosystem, opportunities and even inspire some attempts at further tweaks. 10.) Dreadnought has a capacity to take on any nasty surprises in space and to do some heavy work on a recalcitrant moon; she wouldn’t operate with anywhere close to such impunity close to Earth, discounting the possibility of being a game changer in terrestrial matters of war. However, out in space, she can take on and beat several of the best military spaceships, which to be frank is only a few vessels in any case. 12.) Spaceguard is ostensibly based on the watch for rogue asteroids and comets, which would necessitate a combined effort. 13.) The general course of the war is on a different trajectory, so it is likely to see some different circumstances for POWs. 14.) I’ve only seen the original Stargate movie, so will have to look into that universe; this isn’t a confirmation that it is such an object 15.) Man can be quite, quite cruel.
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Post by simon darkshade on Apr 29, 2021 19:30:47 GMT
I’ll just finish off the last two months before replying to the recent comments. I absolutely love the discussion and opportunity to expand on bits and pieces of the world that it brings, so am very happy for the opportunity. November 1.) You could say that this young constable is the veritable heartbeat of his village. 2.) South America seems to be the last home of the duel, along with other traditions. 3.) The Emperor talks a very big game, partially because being next door to the USA constrains Mexico’s opportunities and freedom of action. 4.) It is a monumental film and met with acclaim on release. There is so much to say on it that I’ll take it to the General Discussion thread, but I’ll just note it is the longest major Western motion picture at 254 minutes. 5.) Fletcher’s sojourn at HM Prison Slade is an interesting one. 6.) Absolutely. The excavations stirred up a lot of sleeping dragons. Why they were sleeping there is a different tale. 7.) Definitely in the case of West. Serial killing isn’t really a growth industry here. 8.) Historically, the idea was shelved, but here sees completion. It includes a rapid transit line as well as car lanes. 9.) Fusion is going to have a big impact on economics, technology and geopolitics. 10.) It is a further escalation as they are joining the Soviets, who already have sent forces into North Vietnam, along with some of their other proxies. 11.) “I’m here to fight for peace, equality and the glorious Soviet future.” 1) That's what I thought although whether Greengrass was ever an help rather than an hindrance I don't know. 4) 4+ hours is a hell of a sit down! Mind you its probably going to miss out even more of the film than Jackson did. You really need a TV or radio series. 6) Well the most optimistic answer to the 2nd bit is that possibly the Spanish missed a hell of a lot of Inca gold and we're disturbed its current 'owners'. 8) Although his Mrs is still out there and she seems by some sources to have been at least as depraved as him. 9) Very true, especially if its able to take off and fairly rapidly replace most other energy sources - the most difficult exception probably being transport needs. Although if it becomes cheap enough then battery or hydrogen powered transport could become practical fairly quickly. Very likely still taking about decades through. 11) 1.) I seem to remember him providing inadvertent assistance at one point. 4.) There is a decent intermission. I’ll outline what is in and out in elsewhere, but it does have some elements Jackson left out. 6.) It is something before the Spanish and before the Inca. More will come in ‘68. 8.) At this point, she is still 13 and, whilst having done some nasty stuff, hasn’t come anywhere near to making the jump to the Big M. Without his corrupting influences, she most probably won’t crop up on the radar. 9.) Quite on the mark. I see the first uses being power stations (and thus electrical public transport), with a slashing of industrial, services/commercial and domestic electricity costs. It provides some opportunities in space, certainly. Cars and trucks/lorries will take some time to work out, but ships will benefit; with further build up time, finding a solution to the range issue for cars will be useful. There will still be a need for coal and oil for some time, for military vehicles, aircraft, steel, chemicals, plastics and more, but not for some of the big bulk uses we see in @. 11.) I felt that it would make things far too lopsided to have only one side in the Cold War have that sort of chap. As it stands, many powers have their superheroes, adding another dimension to the situation and stimulating the multipolar effect.
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Post by simon darkshade on Apr 29, 2021 20:00:01 GMT
December 1.) There will be some more rapid developments on this front. 2.) It could be, given Who is working in London. 3.) Flashman was scrabbling out of the way whilst screaming and crying and managed to dislodge the moai onto the laughing dragon below. 4.) The swans are historical. 5.) Plowshare is gathering pace and some big projects are coming. 6.) Oh, it is. There was a historical black water outbreak a few years earlier that was almost mistaken for a bio attack. This could be the real thing. 7.) It is something very big and very fast, with its exit leaving man no closer to kraken open its secrets. 8.) The DNA synthesis is historical. 9.) Yes, we will hear more of the young French general. 10.) The Wet Bandits picked the wrong house! 11.) Both the USA and USSR actually do listen. 12.) The US and Soviet ships launched from Luna orbit, whereas Dreadnought made a run from the asteroid belt. It is a clever means to have Britain appear to be keeping up with the Big Two. Orion 4 is a big spaceship, carrying four shuttle sized landers, a crew of 100 and a lot of equipment, in addition to some armament just in case. Kosmos is similar, although there is a distinctly different appearance. Dreadnought is a mile long. 2) Well I couldn't remember the name but was actually thinking of the 50's US film "Invasion of the Body Snatchers". However plenty of chances for some enemy of the Doctor to be up to something nasty. 3) Well that sounds more like the Flashman I know and loath. 4) Bloody hell they can fly that high!! 5) Hopefully they consider the possible impacts. Something like a ground level Panama Canal, which I think was one of the ideas, could have very dramatic impacts even without the sheer amount of radioactive fall-out that will result. 6) Ugh! Even the suspicion that its a bio attack could escalate things very badly. 7) Ugh! There are puns and there are puns. 8) Ah I was getting confused with the human genome project in the 90's. 11) Then I suspect what their finding around Jupiter is really, really frightening them. 12) Well to reference another link on this site - see Imperial Star Destroyer, video on them - we have an Imperial warship! That is a hell of a size but probably the sort of thing that will have the endurance to stay out there longer. Going from the belt, as long as the base is in a suitable position makes a lot more sense in some ways. Assuming Dreadnought is a lot bigger than the other two I wonder how much of a surprise it will be to them.
2.) These are nasty little pepperpots... 3.) He is a cad and a bounder here as ever, now in middle age. 4.) It surprised me as well and certainly surprised the poor darn pilot! 5.) The Panama Canal is already wider, but there are plenty of ideas for geoengineering, mining, oil and gas, underground construction and projects in what we might call the Third World. 6.) Escalation is mounting in the regional war(s) and something is needed as a circuit breaker. 7.) I plead guilty to pinning, albeit after a long time. 8.) That type of thing would be well ahead of technology here. We’re going to see some interesting efforts to selectively improve some aspects of humanity. 11.) It isn’t so much fear as realisation that there is a larger universe out there, with all that entails. 12.) It doesn’t have the bulk of a Star Destroyer, nor the same design philosophy. Much of its size is taken up with fuel, supplies and life support for the crew of ~2000 (there is capacity for a lot more). Essentially, she was launched when nominally complete and fitted with her minimum weapons suite and sent out as an exploration vessel. Her length is just over four times that of modern sea-going battleship, but she is designed for space, rather than atmospheric work. Something like this: toppng.com/battleship-perspective-space-battleship-PNG-free-PNG-Images_218578No gun turrets, though. It is a spaceship. Dreadnought took a year to get from the asteroid belt to Jupiter. Orion took from November 1965 to June 1967, or 19 months whilst Kosmos was February 66-August 67, or 18 months. The Soviet and American ships are smaller, faster and built for this purpose; Britain has their own equivalent design, but put their eggs in another basket.
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Post by stevep on Apr 30, 2021 9:24:00 GMT
6) Well possibly Sword, Superb, Supreme, Sureshot, Shrew - which I think was an initial idea for the original Spitfire [although some of those names are more associated with the RN. Got to be a few more so will have to try and think of a few. Did Supermarine always stick with 'S' names?
9) True. Hopefully here things will be maintained better. As you say its possibly the single most important measure to keep Britain competitive with other nations, especially those with far more people and resources.
14) Well the nasty thing with raving lunatic wizards is that when they lose control what they lose control to can be very dangerous. However as you say a villain with a dark purpose is likely to be worse.
15) 0.6c is I think pretty high for a large ship but as you say it would still need to be multi-generational. The other question is do they have a set target? If their just sending a big colony ship out on the hope it will find something, especially with frequent accelerations and decelerations could be a long, long time which is risky for all aboard. If they can tell whether or not a system has a suitable new home while in mid flight they can avoid having to slow down but that could make picking a new target difficult unless its further in the same direction.
Steve, 6.) Shrew would seem a bit underwhelming, Superb and Supreme a little on the pompous side, Sureshot a bit a new name without significant history and Sword a tad too close to Scimitar. Having said that, I will think on it. The name needs to lend itself to easy pluralisation and not be easily converted to something mocking. If it can put the fear of God up Her Majesty's enemies, then all the better. Supermarine used S names for fighters in @ to the best of my knowledge. 9.) Things will be maintained better and funding invested in the current good times to protect the future. That last point is one of the continual goals of the Barton Government - making the most of success today to protect tomorrow. Education is the key to exploiting British advantages to the fullest. 14.) Your point is well made, but, as said, this individual is a bit more dangerous. 15.) The Starship Project is, frankly, a case of trying to start the project too early. However, in the light of the combination of the Cold War and ever mounting American self confidence, this is being set aside. The initial target is Alpha Centauri, but it is being overbuilt so that it can go further and be adapted to fit new drive systems as they are developed. Their first mission is exploration, as colonisation will follow with subsequent trips and ships. Beyond Alpha Centauri, the nearest star systems of interest include: Barnard's Star - Red Dwarf Ross 248 - Red Dwarf Groombridge 34 - Red Dwarf Sirius Luyten 726-8 - Red Dwarf Astraeus Epsilon Eridani Sigma Leonis Tau Ceti Procyon Epsilon Indi Omicron2 Eridani Vega Eta Cassiopeiae
6) I think Shrew was something that Mitchell himself opposed and take your point with Sword. Have to try and think of a few myself. The other three were traditional names with the Andrew - although I think they may have actually used Swiftshot rather than Sureshot. As such they may not be 'politically' suitable to the RAF.
15) Sounds like they would be better off sending off a few smaller but faster unmanned probes, possibly for some fly-throughs to get some actual data on those systems 1st. Although that would mean waiting a decade or two and they might be too impatient for that.
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Post by stevep on Apr 30, 2021 9:29:59 GMT
3) Good. 5) Well that could be interesting for the people involved. 7) Definitely could save a lot of people. Although it might also prompt some bad habits, such as smoking, to last longer. A lot of both famous and talented people could have different fates. 8) OTL the islands are pretty much treeless as I understand it so its going to open up some new ecological niches at least. 10) Now that could be important if something nasty happens around Jupiter. 12) Well there is the old issue that a new common threat - or potential one - can make ancient enemies new allies out of necessity at times. Albeit how deep that alliance is could be an issue. 13) Good on that last bit. 14) Well I will wait and see what turns out. However the Goa'uld are not exactly good neighbours and if there are Stargates we will potentially quickly have a lot of neighbours. Mind you it depends on who gets hold of the Stargate, probably the US and how much they do or don't share with other powers. 15) Not good, at least if their used against other humans. Against hostile aliens that's a different issue.
3.) The UFO event was a historical one, so didn’t do much damage. 5.) Specifically, it will make Taylor and her husband Richard Burton (a wartime Mosquito fighter pilot in the RAF) grow closer and the latter wean himself from the bottle, play some great roles and receive recognition. 7.) Most certainly. Smoking rates are already falling faster than in @, so I can’t see a resurgence happening. As you say, some famous individuals and careers will last longer. 8.) Yes, they are quite treeless in @, so this will change animal life, the local ecosystem, opportunities and even inspire some attempts at further tweaks. 10.) Dreadnought has a capacity to take on any nasty surprises in space and to do some heavy work on a recalcitrant moon; she wouldn’t operate with anywhere close to such impunity close to Earth, discounting the possibility of being a game changer in terrestrial matters of war. However, out in space, she can take on and beat several of the best military spaceships, which to be frank is only a few vessels in any case. 12.) Spaceguard is ostensibly based on the watch for rogue asteroids and comets, which would necessitate a combined effort. 13.) The general course of the war is on a different trajectory, so it is likely to see some different circumstances for POWs. 14.) I’ve only seen the original Stargate movie, so will have to look into that universe; this isn’t a confirmation that it is such an object 15.) Man can be quite, quite cruel.
5) Good for him and possibly her as well. 8) Definitely going to have some impacts. However trying to duplicate this accident could have some nasty consequences. Both in not getting what you want or getting it and finding out that drastically affects something else. Of course there are nasty political potentials if nation A can do something on its territory that adversely affects conditions in neighbour B! 10) I wonder if the designers were thinking of known unpleasant neighbours known to be out in the asteroid region. 15) Unfortunately.
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Post by stevep on Apr 30, 2021 9:33:33 GMT
1) That's what I thought although whether Greengrass was ever an help rather than an hindrance I don't know. 4) 4+ hours is a hell of a sit down! Mind you its probably going to miss out even more of the film than Jackson did. You really need a TV or radio series. 6) Well the most optimistic answer to the 2nd bit is that possibly the Spanish missed a hell of a lot of Inca gold and we're disturbed its current 'owners'. 8) Although his Mrs is still out there and she seems by some sources to have been at least as depraved as him. 9) Very true, especially if its able to take off and fairly rapidly replace most other energy sources - the most difficult exception probably being transport needs. Although if it becomes cheap enough then battery or hydrogen powered transport could become practical fairly quickly. Very likely still taking about decades through. 11) 1.) I seem to remember him providing inadvertent assistance at one point. 4.) There is a decent intermission. I’ll outline what is in and out in elsewhere, but it does have some elements Jackson left out. 6.) It is something before the Spanish and before the Inca. More will come in ‘68. 8.) At this point, she is still 13 and, whilst having done some nasty stuff, hasn’t come anywhere near to making the jump to the Big M. Without his corrupting influences, she most probably won’t crop up on the radar. 9.) Quite on the mark. I see the first uses being power stations (and thus electrical public transport), with a slashing of industrial, services/commercial and domestic electricity costs. It provides some opportunities in space, certainly. Cars and trucks/lorries will take some time to work out, but ships will benefit; with further build up time, finding a solution to the range issue for cars will be useful. There will still be a need for coal and oil for some time, for military vehicles, aircraft, steel, chemicals, plastics and more, but not for some of the big bulk uses we see in @. 11.) I felt that it would make things far too lopsided to have only one side in the Cold War have that sort of chap. As it stands, many powers have their superheroes, adding another dimension to the situation and stimulating the multipolar effect.
1) Inadvertent I can easily see. 4) Good. I dislike Jackson's films less for what they left out - as there was no chance of getting everything in even if it would be suitable for a film they want to be popular - than for the apparently random plot changes and bits of rampant stupidity but that's an old gripe of mine. 6) Is this OTL historical pre-Incas or something far, far older and unique to DE? Like Atlantians or even earlier? 11) Very true.
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Post by stevep on Apr 30, 2021 9:38:57 GMT
2) Well I couldn't remember the name but was actually thinking of the 50's US film "Invasion of the Body Snatchers". However plenty of chances for some enemy of the Doctor to be up to something nasty. 3) Well that sounds more like the Flashman I know and loath. 4) Bloody hell they can fly that high!! 5) Hopefully they consider the possible impacts. Something like a ground level Panama Canal, which I think was one of the ideas, could have very dramatic impacts even without the sheer amount of radioactive fall-out that will result. 6) Ugh! Even the suspicion that its a bio attack could escalate things very badly. 7) Ugh! There are puns and there are puns. 8) Ah I was getting confused with the human genome project in the 90's. 11) Then I suspect what their finding around Jupiter is really, really frightening them. 12) Well to reference another link on this site - see Imperial Star Destroyer, video on them - we have an Imperial warship! That is a hell of a size but probably the sort of thing that will have the endurance to stay out there longer. Going from the belt, as long as the base is in a suitable position makes a lot more sense in some ways. Assuming Dreadnought is a lot bigger than the other two I wonder how much of a surprise it will be to them.
2.) These are nasty little pepperpots... 3.) He is a cad and a bounder here as ever, now in middle age. 4.) It surprised me as well and certainly surprised the poor darn pilot! 5.) The Panama Canal is already wider, but there are plenty of ideas for geoengineering, mining, oil and gas, underground construction and projects in what we might call the Third World. 6.) Escalation is mounting in the regional war(s) and something is needed as a circuit breaker. 7.) I plead guilty to pinning, albeit after a long time. 8.) That type of thing would be well ahead of technology here. We’re going to see some interesting efforts to selectively improve some aspects of humanity. 11.) It isn’t so much fear as realisation that there is a larger universe out there, with all that entails. 12.) It doesn’t have the bulk of a Star Destroyer, nor the same design philosophy. Much of its size is taken up with fuel, supplies and life support for the crew of ~2000 (there is capacity for a lot more). Essentially, she was launched when nominally complete and fitted with her minimum weapons suite and sent out as an exploration vessel. Her length is just over four times that of modern sea-going battleship, but she is designed for space, rather than atmospheric work. Something like this: toppng.com/battleship-perspective-space-battleship-PNG-free-PNG-Images_218578No gun turrets, though. It is a spaceship. Dreadnought took a year to get from the asteroid belt to Jupiter. Orion took from November 1965 to June 1967, or 19 months whilst Kosmos was February 66-August 67, or 18 months. The Soviet and American ships are smaller, faster and built for this purpose; Britain has their own equivalent design, but put their eggs in another basket.
2) On f**k, those again. 6) Definitely else this could become a lot nastier on a lot wider a field very quickly. 8) I would have hoped that the eugenic dead end would have been seen as counter productive by now but there are always idiots and the irresponsible. 12) Basically your saying its a lot more realistic than a star destroyer.
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Post by simon darkshade on May 3, 2021 8:36:38 GMT
Steve, 6.) Shrew would seem a bit underwhelming, Superb and Supreme a little on the pompous side, Sureshot a bit a new name without significant history and Sword a tad too close to Scimitar. Having said that, I will think on it. The name needs to lend itself to easy pluralisation and not be easily converted to something mocking. If it can put the fear of God up Her Majesty's enemies, then all the better. Supermarine used S names for fighters in @ to the best of my knowledge. 9.) Things will be maintained better and funding invested in the current good times to protect the future. That last point is one of the continual goals of the Barton Government - making the most of success today to protect tomorrow. Education is the key to exploiting British advantages to the fullest. 14.) Your point is well made, but, as said, this individual is a bit more dangerous. 15.) The Starship Project is, frankly, a case of trying to start the project too early. However, in the light of the combination of the Cold War and ever mounting American self confidence, this is being set aside. The initial target is Alpha Centauri, but it is being overbuilt so that it can go further and be adapted to fit new drive systems as they are developed. Their first mission is exploration, as colonisation will follow with subsequent trips and ships. Beyond Alpha Centauri, the nearest star systems of interest include: Barnard's Star - Red Dwarf Ross 248 - Red Dwarf Groombridge 34 - Red Dwarf Sirius Luyten 726-8 - Red Dwarf Astraeus Epsilon Eridani Sigma Leonis Tau Ceti Procyon Epsilon Indi Omicron2 Eridani Vega Eta Cassiopeiae
6) I think Shrew was something that Mitchell himself opposed and take your point with Sword. Have to try and think of a few myself. The other three were traditional names with the Andrew - although I think they may have actually used Swiftshot rather than Sureshot. As such they may not be 'politically' suitable to the RAF.
15) Sounds like they would be better off sending off a few smaller but faster unmanned probes, possibly for some fly-throughs to get some actual data on those systems 1st. Although that would mean waiting a decade or two and they might be too impatient for that.
Steve, The Andrew did use Swiftsure for many ships and it has been used by the RCAF. At the moment, it is strongly leaning towards the well known name. That notion will likely come up as work progresses and the capability to launch probes emerges. This is a multi-decade project.
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Post by simon darkshade on May 3, 2021 8:45:03 GMT
3.) The UFO event was a historical one, so didn’t do much damage. 5.) Specifically, it will make Taylor and her husband Richard Burton (a wartime Mosquito fighter pilot in the RAF) grow closer and the latter wean himself from the bottle, play some great roles and receive recognition. 7.) Most certainly. Smoking rates are already falling faster than in @, so I can’t see a resurgence happening. As you say, some famous individuals and careers will last longer. 8.) Yes, they are quite treeless in @, so this will change animal life, the local ecosystem, opportunities and even inspire some attempts at further tweaks. 10.) Dreadnought has a capacity to take on any nasty surprises in space and to do some heavy work on a recalcitrant moon; she wouldn’t operate with anywhere close to such impunity close to Earth, discounting the possibility of being a game changer in terrestrial matters of war. However, out in space, she can take on and beat several of the best military spaceships, which to be frank is only a few vessels in any case. 12.) Spaceguard is ostensibly based on the watch for rogue asteroids and comets, which would necessitate a combined effort. 13.) The general course of the war is on a different trajectory, so it is likely to see some different circumstances for POWs. 14.) I’ve only seen the original Stargate movie, so will have to look into that universe; this isn’t a confirmation that it is such an object 15.) Man can be quite, quite cruel.
5) Good for him and possibly her as well. 8) Definitely going to have some impacts. However trying to duplicate this accident could have some nasty consequences. Both in not getting what you want or getting it and finding out that drastically affects something else. Of course there are nasty political potentials if nation A can do something on its territory that adversely affects conditions in neighbour B! 10) I wonder if the designers were thinking of known unpleasant neighbours known to be out in the asteroid region. 15) Unfortunately.
5.) I’ve always been more familiar with Burton as an actor, which does inform my perspective on the matter. 8.) You’ve hit the nail on the head again - if an accident can turn out well, they can also turn out badly. With enough of a change, the impact can definitely be felt across borders, in a similar category as weather warfare. Changing rainfall over a prime cropping area would be very nasty... 10.) The Space Nazis are annoying, but not on a Tunguska or Chixulub level of annoying. 15.) A day might come when gas is not used, but not yet.
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Post by stevep on May 3, 2021 8:52:14 GMT
5) Good for him and possibly her as well. 8) Definitely going to have some impacts. However trying to duplicate this accident could have some nasty consequences. Both in not getting what you want or getting it and finding out that drastically affects something else. Of course there are nasty political potentials if nation A can do something on its territory that adversely affects conditions in neighbour B! 10) I wonder if the designers were thinking of known unpleasant neighbours known to be out in the asteroid region. 15) Unfortunately.
5.) I’ve always been more familiar with Burton as an actor, which does inform my perspective on the matter. 8.) You’ve hit the nail on the head again - if an accident can turn out well, they can also turn out badly. With enough of a change, the impact can definitely be felt across borders, in a similar category as weather warfare. Changing rainfall over a prime cropping area would be very nasty... 10.) The Space Nazis are annoying, but not on a Tunguska or Chixulub level of annoying. 15.) A day might come when gas is not used, but not yet.
8) I was thinking of deliberate as well as accidental impacts on neighbours. 10) Not that bad but a big powerful ship would come in very handy if you run into them, either to survive or ideally if you found a major base go bash. 15) Good.
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Post by simon darkshade on May 3, 2021 9:00:20 GMT
2.) These are nasty little pepperpots... 3.) He is a cad and a bounder here as ever, now in middle age. 4.) It surprised me as well and certainly surprised the poor darn pilot! 5.) The Panama Canal is already wider, but there are plenty of ideas for geoengineering, mining, oil and gas, underground construction and projects in what we might call the Third World. 6.) Escalation is mounting in the regional war(s) and something is needed as a circuit breaker. 7.) I plead guilty to pinning, albeit after a long time. 8.) That type of thing would be well ahead of technology here. We’re going to see some interesting efforts to selectively improve some aspects of humanity. 11.) It isn’t so much fear as realisation that there is a larger universe out there, with all that entails. 12.) It doesn’t have the bulk of a Star Destroyer, nor the same design philosophy. Much of its size is taken up with fuel, supplies and life support for the crew of ~2000 (there is capacity for a lot more). Essentially, she was launched when nominally complete and fitted with her minimum weapons suite and sent out as an exploration vessel. Her length is just over four times that of modern sea-going battleship, but she is designed for space, rather than atmospheric work. Something like this: toppng.com/battleship-perspective-space-battleship-PNG-free-PNG-Images_218578No gun turrets, though. It is a spaceship. Dreadnought took a year to get from the asteroid belt to Jupiter. Orion took from November 1965 to June 1967, or 19 months whilst Kosmos was February 66-August 67, or 18 months. The Soviet and American ships are smaller, faster and built for this purpose; Britain has their own equivalent design, but put their eggs in another basket.
2) On f**k, those again. 6) Definitely else this could become a lot nastier on a lot wider a field very quickly. 8) I would have hoped that the eugenic dead end would have been seen as counter productive by now but there are always idiots and the irresponsible. 12) Basically your saying its a lot more realistic than a star destroyer. 2.) There is something going on with those little blighters, who are a tad overpowered. However, considering who one of the future commanders of the BAOR will be... 6.) 1968 will have a few surprises. 8.) It is fairly limited to positive eugenics, combined with some of the ideas explored in A New Jerusalem *cough*super soldiers*cough* 12.) Well, I’d hope so. There simply isn’t the infrastructure for something on the silly level, but once the issue of getting material to a low/zero gravity environment is resolved, then building a shell is easier. Steel, as they say, is cheap, once it is in the right place.
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Post by stevep on May 3, 2021 9:39:24 GMT
2) On f**k, those again. 6) Definitely else this could become a lot nastier on a lot wider a field very quickly. 8) I would have hoped that the eugenic dead end would have been seen as counter productive by now but there are always idiots and the irresponsible. 12) Basically your saying its a lot more realistic than a star destroyer. 2.) There is something going on with those little blighters, who are a tad overpowered. However, considering who one of the future commanders of the BAOR will be... 6.) 1968 will have a few surprises. 8.) It is fairly limited to positive eugenics, combined with some of the ideas explored in A New Jerusalem *cough*super soldiers*cough* 12.) Well, I’d hope so. There simply isn’t the infrastructure for something on the silly level, but once the issue of getting material to a low/zero gravity environment is resolved, then building a shell is easier. Steel, as they say, is cheap, once it is in the right place.
2) Would he have a double-barrelled name? 6) Good as too often its been used negatively as well as to distract from generally more important environmental factors. 12) Well since humanity has been established in orbit for over a century and there are several moons, the others far smaller than Luna and hence having even less gravity to overcome there would probably be a substantial industrial base up there already. Not to mention a lot of free energy for the next few billion years.
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