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Post by stevep on Sept 5, 2018 8:42:21 GMT
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Good update. The key factors might be the delay in the German advance and the sheer amount of equipment that the Germans are losing as they have relatively few Pz IIIs and IVs at this point. It would be a bad point that the defenders have to withdraw as the Germans gain the battleground and hence can regain damaged vehicles. However given the much greater destructive power of the modern Canadian weapons I suspect there will be few damaged vehicles and uninjured crewmen to repair/rejoin their unit.
Of course the Canadians have even less equipment and for many types they can't replace any in the near future but I suspect that, provided they can avoid too many breakdown losses they are losing relatively few vehicles. Hopefully also managing to totally destroy anything they leave behind.
Rather surprised there are so many neo-Nazi groups emerging in modern Canada?
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Post by redrobin65 on Sept 5, 2018 9:27:48 GMT
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Good update. The key factors might be the delay in the German advance and the sheer amount of equipment that the Germans are losing as they have relatively few Pz IIIs and IVs at this point. It would be a bad point that the defenders have to withdraw as the Germans gain the battleground and hence can regain damaged vehicles. However given the much greater destructive power of the modern Canadian weapons I suspect there will be few damaged vehicles and uninjured crewmen to repair/rejoin their unit.
Of course the Canadians have even less equipment and for many types they can't replace any in the near future but I suspect that, provided they can avoid too many breakdown losses they are losing relatively few vehicles. Hopefully also managing to totally destroy anything they leave behind.
Rather surprised there are so many neo-Nazi groups emerging in modern Canada?
Steve
Thank you. The goal for now is to slow the Germans as much as possible. There's no large Neo-Nazi organization in Canada, but many small/local ones. Some have cooperated in rallies before, so it isn't too much of a stretch that some would unite. |
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Post by Zyobot on Sept 5, 2018 14:03:38 GMT
Some food for thought: once it rolls around, I'm eager to see 2039 Canada get ISOTed back to 1939. Not that I expect you to redo TTL, of course.
Going back to 2018, some have argued that we uptimers are living in a Third/Fourth Industrial Revolution marked by automation, 3D printing and IoT to name a few. What will the 1939ers make of this assessment--especially those old enough to recall the 1800s Industrial Revolution?
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Post by Zyobot on Sept 14, 2018 2:33:29 GMT
We may have covered this already, but I'm not sure. Since the Constitution Act won't be passed until 1982, Great Britain will seem to still have power to amend the uptimers' constitution--at least, that's my understanding as someone who's never been to either.
How will the legalities surrounding this proceed, especially considering that the UK may make concessions in exchange for Canada's aid?
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Post by stevep on Sept 14, 2018 10:05:17 GMT
We may have covered this already, but I'm not sure. Since the Constitution Act won't be passed until 1982, Great Britain will seem to still have power to amend the uptimers' constitution--at least, that's my understanding as someone who's never been to either. How will the legalities surrounding this proceed, especially considering that the UK may make concessions in exchange for Canada's aid?
I would guess, given the situation this would be a non-event as I can't see Britain trying something like that, especially when it needs Canada so much. Do you know if Britain tried to use such a power at any time after 1867? It may be that this wasn't removed until 1982 simply because it was seen as irrelevant.
It could be that however 2018 Canada will push for such an act or alternative simply say it will operate by its own 2018 laws, i.e. in the unlikely event that Britain tried to pass something affecting the Canadian constitution Canada would simply ignore it.
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Post by Zyobot on Sept 14, 2018 11:49:18 GMT
We may have covered this already, but I'm not sure. Since the Constitution Act won't be passed until 1982, Great Britain will seem to still have power to amend the uptimers' constitution--at least, that's my understanding as someone who's never been to either. How will the legalities surrounding this proceed, especially considering that the UK may make concessions in exchange for Canada's aid?
I would guess, given the situation this would be a non-event as I can't see Britain trying something like that, especially when it needs Canada so much. Do you know if Britain tried to use such a power at any time after 1867? It may be that this wasn't removed until 1982 simply because it was seen as irrelevant.
It could be that however 2018 Canada will push for such an act or alternative simply say it will operate by its own 2018 laws, i.e. in the unlikely event that Britain tried to pass something affecting the Canadian constitution Canada would simply ignore it.
That sounds legit, though the British government will mumble and grumble about their now-nonexistent power over Canada and all the uptimer stuff it's brought with it. |
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Post by lordroel on Sept 14, 2018 11:54:01 GMT
I would guess, given the situation this would be a non-event as I can't see Britain trying something like that, especially when it needs Canada so much. Do you know if Britain tried to use such a power at any time after 1867? It may be that this wasn't removed until 1982 simply because it was seen as irrelevant. It could be that however 2018 Canada will push for such an act or alternative simply say it will operate by its own 2018 laws, i.e. in the unlikely event that Britain tried to pass something affecting the Canadian constitution Canada would simply ignore it.
That sounds legit, though the British government will mumble and grumble about their now-nonexistent power over Canada and all the uptimer stuff it's brought with it. They must be happy this 2018 Canada is on thier side. |
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Post by Zyobot on Sept 15, 2018 1:29:48 GMT
That sounds legit, though the British government will mumble and grumble about their now-nonexistent power over Canada and all the uptimer stuff it's brought with it. They must be happy this 2018 Canada is on thier side. True; I suppose that a potentially nation-ending conflict with a resurgent, totalitarian Germany forces transforms the way you prioritize things. Despite that, I'm willing to say that some Brits will complain about no longer having control over the uptimers or what they do as a sovereign nation.
Then again, between having an independent, but cooperative 2018 Canada with loads of shiny tech, and a subservient downtimer Canada without that stuff, the choice is pretty clear. |
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Post by Zyobot on Sept 18, 2018 1:52:46 GMT
redrobin65 confirmed on AH.com that he'd write technology reactions at some point. Considering that some think we're experiencing a Fourth Industrial Revolution in 2018, I wonder what the downtimers will make of it all...
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Post by redrobin65 on Oct 1, 2018 2:28:59 GMT
FIGHTING CONTINUES IN FRANCE, BELGIUM, NETHERLANDS (The Globe and Mail)
FIRST BODIES OF FALLEN CANADIAN SOLDIERS TO ARRIVE AT TRENTON (Ottawa Citizen)
PM TRUDEAU HEADS FOR UK (National Post)
DOWNTIMERS VISIT CANADA (LA PRESSE)
HOW WILL CANADA FIT INTO THE 1940S? (Toronto Star)
OPINION: WITH STALIN ALIVE, CAN THE LIBERAL PARTY RESIST ITS MARXIST URGES? (The Rebel)
May 18th, Mirabel, Quebec
C.R. Smith, CEO of American Airlines, stepped off of the Bombardier Q400 that he had ridden on, and felt elated. The Q400, while expensive, outperformed the Douglas DC-3 used by AA in every way. Speed, comport, payload, range, materials used, everything.
Turning to the CEO of Bombardier, he said: “You know what? I think we’ll consider your offer.”
May 18th, Vancouver, British Columbia
John Mason was stunned. Not in a bad way, of course. The technological innovations of the past 70 years were absolutely phenomenal! He’d been told that the car that had taken him, his wife and son to their hotel was a 2017 Lincoln Continental, which surprised him. The Continental back at the family estate in California was nice, but this blew it out of the water; no comparison whatsoever. The car was fast, quiet, spacious, and good looking. Many of the modern cars had the same general look; sleek, long, low. A bit too aggressive for his taste, though. The newest ones all looked like they wanted to attack something.
Their hotel was the Fairmont Royal, and it was absolutely stunning. Not only was it luxurious, it seemed to be packed with technology…
May 18th, Ottawa, Ontario
The Canadian Temporal Technological Exhibit was in full swing. The best versions of many different products made since the 1950s were on display for all to see. Cars, Trucks, planes, smartphones, tablets, laptops, desktops, compact motorized lawnmowers, DSLRs, robots, scanners, printers, microwaves, televisions; the list went on and on. The event had heavy security, with cameras around every corner, guards (open and undercover), and assigned a few police officers outside. It made sense, as no GOC (Government of Canada) official wanted to have a PR disaster of any kind.
Attending the event were government officials and civilians from the United States, United Kingdom, France, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Portugal, Greece, Yugoslavia, Turkey, Thailand, Australia, New Zealand, Colombia, Brazil and Argentina. These countries were very interested in modern technology on display. The countries attending wanted to understand what Canadians interacted with on a daily basis. Besides, Canada was looking to trade with these countries. Some of that had already happened (mainly with the US, UK and France for obvious reasons), but Canada had a strong technological advantage which desperately needed to be exploited.
Most people hovered around the personal computing section. The smartphones in particular drew lots of attention. The whole concept of mobile phones was impressive but not completely unbelievable. What one could do with modern smartphones was, however. Watching movies, reading, listening to music, scheduling events, all in your pocket! The vibrant, colourful screens raised eyebrows and were the subject of praise in the downtime media.
The vehicles drew a good amount of attention as well. A Honda Civic (one of the cars made in Canada) was the main attraction. Even though it was an entry-level car in the Canadian market, it blew every other downtime car out of the water in almost every single way (except for its questionable looks). Bombardier was out in force with their C-Series and Q400 on display. The C-Series was far too expensive for anyone other than a government to purchase. The Q400, while expensive for the time even when inflation was considered had a few orders. Not many, but a few by companies and governments.
Modern refrigerators, washers, dishwashers, and dryers were on display as well. Spectators gawked at the appliances at the CTTE. However, almost all of the manufacturers did not make anything in Canada. That wasn’t too much of an issue; the GOC had plans and there were plenty of people who had worked in the near-destroyed Canadian appliance industry.
Canadians Show Advanced Technology to the World
The Observer, 19 May, 1940
James Gillam
OTTAWA- The Canadian Temporal Technological Exhibit opened on the 17th, and several examples of exciting future technology were on display. Airplanes without propellers, fast and comfortable automobiles, machines that heat food in mere seconds, the CTTE shows what is possible in the years to come.
Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau delivered a speech on the night of the 17th, in which he said: “Our country is proud to display the technologies that we use in our everyday lives. We look to share some of those technologies with you.” Trudeau will head to Britain to meet with Prime Minister Churchill later in the month.
Arguably the most exciting piece of technology shown at the CTTE is the smartphone. Part telephone, part photobook, part novel, part record player, part cinema, the smartphone aims to be multiple devices with different functions at once, able to easily fit into a pocket. 70% of Canadians own smartphones.
There are many other technologies being shown at the CTTE, which will close on 2 June.
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Post by lordroel on Oct 1, 2018 2:46:40 GMT
Attending the event were government officials and civilians from the United States, United Kingdom, France, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Portugal, Greece, Yugoslavia, Turkey, Thailand, Australia, New Zealand, Colombia, Brazil and Argentina. These countries were very interested in modern technology on display. The countries attending wanted to understand what Canadians interacted with on a daily basis. Besides, Canada was looking to trade with these countries. Some of that had already happened (mainly with the US, UK and France for obvious reasons), but Canada had a strong technological advantage which desperately needed to be exploited.
Nice update redrobin65. So No Belgium, Luxembourg ore Netherlands attending this event. |
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Post by redrobin65 on Oct 1, 2018 10:24:24 GMT
Attending the event were government officials and civilians from the United States, United Kingdom, France, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Portugal, Greece, Yugoslavia, Turkey, Thailand, Australia, New Zealand, Colombia, Brazil and Argentina. These countries were very interested in modern technology on display. The countries attending wanted to understand what Canadians interacted with on a daily basis. Besides, Canada was looking to trade with these countries. Some of that had already happened (mainly with the US, UK and France for obvious reasons), but Canada had a strong technological advantage which desperately needed to be exploited.
Nice update redrobin65. So No Belgium, Luxembourg ore Netherlands attending this event. Well, all of Luxembourg, about half of Belgium and a good amount of the Netherlands are occupied. |
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Post by James G on Oct 1, 2018 11:29:06 GMT
Brilliant.
I can imagine the shock/horror on the faces of some of the more morally-upright people at other things they would see in modern Canada.
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Post by lordroel on Oct 1, 2018 14:02:10 GMT
Nice update redrobin65. So No Belgium, Luxembourg ore Netherlands attending this event. Well, all of Luxembourg, about half of Belgium and a good amount of the Netherlands are occupied. Good explanation. |
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Post by stevep on Oct 1, 2018 15:00:11 GMT
Brilliant. I can imagine the shock/horror on the faces of some of the more morally-upright people at other things they would see in modern Canada.
Very true. In their own terms but there's going to be a huge number of changes, in fashion, behaviour and standards that would be very strange to the down-timers and repulsive to many of them. At that point mixed race relationships were still illegal in a number of US states and homosexual behaviour illegal just about everywhere. Plus there are probably a lot of down-timers complaining about why they can't smoke in just about any building and being caught for drunk driving when their 'quite safe because their just had a few'.
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