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Post by ankh on Nov 8, 2017 11:51:15 GMT
You challenge, if you choose to accept it, is to prevent the French Revolution with a PoD no earlier than 1715.
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Post by stevep on Nov 8, 2017 13:19:50 GMT
You challenge, if you choose to accept it, is to prevent the French Revolution with a PoD no earlier than 1715. Is that preventing it succeeding or preventing it occurring at all? If the former there are suggestions that even after 1789 Louis XVI with a bit more decisiveness and luck might have been able to stay in power, although there would probably have been some nasty fighting, massacres and suppression of opposition. Plus it might stoke the fires for another rebellion later down the line. |
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Post by ankh on Nov 8, 2017 13:51:13 GMT
You challenge, if you choose to accept it, is to prevent the French Revolution with a PoD no earlier than 1715. Is that preventing it succeeding or preventing it occurring at all? If the former there are suggestions that even after 1789 Louis XVI with a bit more decisiveness and luck might have been able to stay in power, although there would probably have been some nasty fighting, massacres and suppression of opposition. Plus it might stoke the fires for another rebellion later down the line. I was thinking more prevent from happening but the former would also be interesting. |
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Post by lordroel on Nov 8, 2017 15:53:30 GMT
Is that preventing it succeeding or preventing it occurring at all? If the former there are suggestions that even after 1789 Louis XVI with a bit more decisiveness and luck might have been able to stay in power, although there would probably have been some nasty fighting, massacres and suppression of opposition. Plus it might stoke the fires for another rebellion later down the line. I was thinking more prevent from happening but the former would also be interesting. Would no American Revolution prevent the French Revolution. |
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Post by ankh on Nov 8, 2017 16:01:40 GMT
I was thinking more prevent from happening but the former would also be interesting. Would no American Revolution prevent the French Revolution. Not a bad idea actually. |
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Post by lordroel on Nov 8, 2017 16:07:37 GMT
Would no American Revolution prevent the French Revolution. Not a bad idea actually. But still, as long as Louis XVI and his let them eat cake wife Marie Antoinette are on the throne, i do not think we need the American Revolution to start the French Revolution. |
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Post by ankh on Nov 8, 2017 16:44:22 GMT
But still, as long as Louis XVI and his let them eat cake wife Marie Antoinette are on the throne, i do not think we need the American Revolution to start the French Revolution. True, true. At the very least I think no American Revolution would mean no republican element in the revolution. |
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Post by lordroel on Nov 8, 2017 18:01:34 GMT
But still, as long as Louis XVI and his let them eat cake wife Marie Antoinette are on the throne, i do not think we need the American Revolution to start the French Revolution. True, true. At the very least I think no American Revolution would mean no republican element in the revolution. The French people will still try, tension where already high between the royalty and people. |
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Post by ankh on Nov 8, 2017 18:13:13 GMT
True, true. At the very least I think no American Revolution would mean no republican element in the revolution. The French people will still try, tension where already high between the royalty and people. Oh, definitely. There would be some sort of revolution even without the ARW which begs the question what would stop the revolution? |
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Post by lordroel on Nov 8, 2017 18:15:19 GMT
The French people will still try, tension where already high between the royalty and people. Oh, definitely. There would be some sort of revolution even without the ARW which begs the question what would stop the revolution? Somebody taking control and crushing ore ending the revolution. |
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Post by ankh on Nov 8, 2017 20:34:08 GMT
Oh, definitely. There would be some sort of revolution even without the ARW which begs the question what would stop the revolution? Somebody taking control and crushing ore ending the revolution. Well, I wonder if the ancien regime was already doomed because of its structural problems. |
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Post by lordroel on Nov 9, 2017 3:35:23 GMT
Somebody taking control and crushing ore ending the revolution. Well, I wonder if the ancien regime was already doomed because of its structural problems. I think it was doomed when that king became king. |
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Post by ankh on Nov 9, 2017 10:40:29 GMT
Well, I wonder if the ancien regime was already doomed because of its structural problems. I think it was doomed when that king became king. So, if Louis XVI was a stronger ruler the revolution could have been prevented? |
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Post by lordroel on Nov 9, 2017 15:14:57 GMT
I think it was doomed when that king became king. So, if Louis XVI was a stronger ruler the revolution could have been prevented? Maybe if he does not marry here. |
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Post by ankh on Nov 9, 2017 17:16:29 GMT
So, if Louis XVI was a stronger ruler the revolution could have been prevented? Maybe if he does not marry here. A possibility. |
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