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Post by kasumigenx on Jun 25, 2017 5:28:35 GMT
Verse 9
The NeoMajapahitans or the Kingdom of Sapa/Saludong and the Kingdom of Tungning would erase lakandula from history and instead write that a shady Prince from the Borneans backstabbed the Majapahitans in Saludong in the war against Limahong and the Spanish and sold out Prince Sulayman from the South, lakandula is forgotten due to the Majapahitans in Saludong doing their revenge from Lakandula's kin and having his kins lands fall to the Kingdom of Tungning, they would also put in their historiography that Sulayman is a person who wants to protect his own Kingdom from the Spanish just like his contemporaries in the Kingdom of Sapa.
The Kingdom of Saludong and the Kingdom of Tungning would stablize their borders due to the people there having contrast in character and the boundary is in the boundary of the former provinces of Meycauayan and Pampanga.
In this point the Kingdom of Saludong would start being hostile to the Ilocos Province which remains under Spanish rule.
On 1685, the Spanish would sell their rights to Saludong/Northern Luzon and the Province of Ilocos to the Portuguese which would help the Portuguese and the Dutch and Portuguese alliance of the Kingdom of Saludong and Celebes in the South, however the Dutch would buy the Province of Ilocos from the Portuguese in 1688 and the Dutch return to the Island of Formosa, the Portuguese cede their rights to Saludong to the Dutch in 1690, two years after the dutch acquired the Province of Ilocos.
In this time the Kingdom of Tungning would be hostile to the remaining Spanish territories in Saludong or Luzon which is Kumintang and Camarines.
In this time the old Sultan Kudarat has passed a decade ago in 1673 he had a very long life.
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I just don't know what to do to the Ilocanos since they cannot resettle Cagayan valley since the genocides in upper Cagayan and pampanga river does not happen, they have a surplus population.
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Post by lordroel on Jun 25, 2017 8:13:52 GMT
On 1685, the Spanish would sell their rights to Saludong/Northern Luzon and the Province of Ilocos to the Portuguese which would help the Portuguese and the Dutch and Portuguese alliance of the Kingdom of Saludong and Celebes in the South, however the Dutch would buy the Province of Ilocos from the Portuguese in 1688 and the Dutch return to the Island of Formosa, the Portuguese cede their rights to Saludong and the Province of Ilocos to the Dutch in 1690, two years after the dutch acquired the Province of Ilocos. So the Netherlands have a precedence in the Philippines, wonder how long they can hold that. |
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Post by kasumigenx on Jun 25, 2017 8:54:48 GMT
On 1685, the Spanish would sell their rights to Saludong/Northern Luzon and the Province of Ilocos to the Portuguese which would help the Portuguese and the Dutch and Portuguese alliance of the Kingdom of Saludong and Celebes in the South, however the Dutch would buy the Province of Ilocos from the Portuguese in 1688 and the Dutch return to the Island of Formosa, the Portuguese cede their rights to Saludong and the Province of Ilocos to the Dutch in 1690, two years after the dutch acquired the Province of Ilocos. So the Netherlands have a precedence in the Philippines, wonder how long they can hold that. Perhaps till 19th century if they do not lose their DEI colonies.. |
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Post by lordroel on Jun 25, 2017 8:57:21 GMT
So the Netherlands have a precedence in the Philippines, wonder how long they can hold that. Perhaps till 19th century if they do not lose their DEI colonies.. Well i cannot see the Dutch holding Formosa, the lost it in once in 1662, they will lose it again. |
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Post by kasumigenx on Jun 25, 2017 9:01:02 GMT
Perhaps till 19th century if they do not lose their DEI colonies.. Well i cannot see the Dutch holding Formosa, the lost it in once in 1662, they will lose it again. The Dutch regained Formosa because the Ming loyalists relocated to Manila. They will but not that soon. |
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Post by lordroel on Jun 25, 2017 9:11:17 GMT
Well i cannot see the Dutch holding Formosa, the lost it in once in 1662, they will lose it again. The Dutch regained Formosa because the Ming loyalists relocated to Manila. They will but not that soon. So in this universe we will see a splintered Philippine. |
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Post by kasumigenx on Jun 25, 2017 9:49:19 GMT
The Dutch regained Formosa because the Ming loyalists relocated to Manila. They will but not that soon. So in this universe we will see a splintered Philippine. Yes, unless someone else tries to get all the states as their protectorate..and the Luzon Principalia or nobles have gotten their revenge against Lakandula. |
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Post by lordroel on Jun 25, 2017 9:52:54 GMT
So in this universe we will see a splintered Philippine. Yes, unless someone else tries to get all the states as their protectorate..and the Luzon Principalia or nobles have gotten their revenge against Lakandula. So it will be like the scramble for Africa but here it will be the scramble of the Philippines between Spain, Portugal and the Dutch. |
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Post by kasumigenx on Jun 26, 2017 7:39:27 GMT
Yes, unless someone else tries to get all the states as their protectorate..and the Luzon Principalia or nobles have gotten their revenge against Lakandula. So it will be like the scramble for Africa but here it will be the scramble of the Philippines between Spain, Portugal and the Dutch. That depends on the circumstances.. |
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Post by kasumigenx on Jun 26, 2017 8:22:20 GMT
Charles II of Spain croaks earlier in this timeline..
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Post by lordroel on Jun 26, 2017 14:40:44 GMT
Charles II of Spain croaks earlier in this timeline.. In what year does he die then. |
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Post by kasumigenx on Jun 26, 2017 15:11:32 GMT
Charles II of Spain croaks earlier in this timeline.. In what year does he die then. 1689, leaving his wife Marie Louise a widow. |
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Post by lordroel on Jun 26, 2017 15:16:22 GMT
In what year does he die then. 1689, leaving his wife Marie Louise a widow. This is going to be messy, he had no heirs. |
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Post by kasumigenx on Jun 27, 2017 15:03:43 GMT
Verse 10
The inbred Charles III would die in 1689 leaving behind his 26 year old widow, a widow who is still fertile and had an infertile husband, Marie Louise of Orleans would feel sad about the death of her first husband but she would be wondering what would happen to her and her adopted country, Marie Louise of Orleans was called off to France so that she can remarry if she is still valuable or join the convent, the King of France at that time would chose that the former Spanish queen should remarry rather than go to the convent.
The death of the Inbred Charles would send the country of Spain into a War of Succession, wherein Louis the Grand Dauphin would attempt to claim the French throne which is a part of the worries of Marie Louise of Orleans.
A marriage between Ferdinando de Medici and Marie Louise of Orleans, the Queen Dowager of Spain was arranged fast after the return of Marie Louise of Orleans to France, it was said that the marriage reinvigorated the Medici line as she is very much fertile and it is Charles II who is inbred not Marie Louise of Orleans and the marriage would destroy her reputation as infertile but rather it is Charles III who will be remembered as the inbred and infertile one and it would further the French case in the Spanish succession, however the French heir is the Grand Dauphin and the powers outside of Spain would want to prevent a union between France and the Spain and the other areas in Personal union whith Spain which includes the Spanish Netherlands.
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Post by lordroel on Jun 28, 2017 17:32:00 GMT
Verse 10
The inbred Charles III would die in 1689 leaving behind his 26 year old widow, a widow who is still fertile and had an infertile husband, Marie Louise of Orleans would feel sad about the death of her first husband but she would be wondering what would happen to her and her adopted country, Marie Louise of Orleans was called off to France so that she can remarry if she is still valuable or join the convent, the King of France at that time would chose that the former Spanish queen should remarry rather than go to the convent.
The death of the Inbred Charles would send the country of Spain into a War of Succession, wherein Louis the Grand Dauphin would attempt to claim the French throne which is a part of the worries of Marie Louise of Orleans.
A marriage between Ferdinando de Medici and Marie Louise of Orleans, the Queen Dowager of Spain was arranged fast after the return of Marie Louise of Orleans to France, it was said that the marriage reinvigorated the Medici line as she is very much fertile and it is Charles II who is inbred not Marie Louise of Orleans and the marriage would destroy her reputation as infertile but rather it is Charles III who will be remembered as the inbred and infertile one and it would further the French case in the Spanish succession, however the French heir is the Grand Dauphin and the powers outside of Spain would want to prevent a union between France and the Spain and the other areas in Personal union whith Spain which includes the Spanish Netherlands. I see a war comming. |
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